sstyle7
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No one ever talks about the distortion sounds on modern Heavy Metal trax.
I would really like to know how you take such crazy distortion and smooth it out so well that it still shreds but sits very well in the rest of the track. One example I can think of is the band from Sweden "Meshugga". I'm talking about Juliard musicians making some of the most chaotic music you can think of. But the guitars are always so clean and clear and punchy at the same time. I've seen a few pics of their studio setup and it looks like they run through 2 (yes two!) Line 6 rackmount Pod Pros along with other things im sure.  Do you think they mix 2 different cabinet models? Do they run through 2 different amp models? Do you think they run through the Pods with amp and cabinet modeling, and THEN run through an actual amp and mic that? Anyway, any tips or tricks for warming up and smoothing out heavy distortion would be a great benefit. |
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sstyle7
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Did i scare somebody away? Did I mention the unthinkable? Did I actually describe heavy metal as MUSIC?
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wailingalleycat
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yeah that could be it, i dont think all engineers are too keen on heavy metal.
Im not a studio engineer so im not going to try and answer your question but someone will shortly
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wailingalleycat
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P.S. i may get this post moved to the record production forum.
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sstyle7
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I figured it out! You say a lot of engineers aren't keen on heavy metal? But this forum is FULL of stuff about Rap and Hip Hop! Now, I don't know about you, but where I'm from a lot of people would call Heavy Metal just noise and not good music. AND- the same people would say the same about RAP! The only difference I could see looking at this from an engineer's standpoint is that Rap is EASY to engineer! Of course they'll reply to the RAP forum over the Metal! Clever buggers! |
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wailingalleycat
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I also hate engineering heavy metal for two reasons (Live Sound) because they use fuzz boxes and i have no control over them once the show starts and because it really annoys when my microphones are dripping wet with saliva after a performance and im the one that has to clean them!!!
I think most people here will agree that heavy metal is just breaking instruments and screaming. sorry to anyone who likes it ut that my opinion.
I dont have anything against Rap i just dont like it. but your right its easy to engineer. (relatively)
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Thanks for all the input guys but lets keep this thread on track, it is about the guitar and using distortion on it.
For specific Heavy Metal chat use:
http://www.audiocourses.com/forum99.html
And for Hip-Hop and rap use the newly create forum:
http://www.audiocourses.com/forum105.html
And Wailing:
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I think most people here will agree that heavy metal is just breaking instruments and screaming. sorry to anyone who likes it ut that my opinion.
I think that is a very sweeping statement which is probably very wrong.
sstyle7
In part answer to your original question there are literally thousands of ways to get a heavy guitar sound. One of my favourites is to actually back off the distortion and allow a fair amount of clean sound through in the mix (this can cut really well) and have the distortion in the background. Also rolling off some of the bottom end can help, and I like to use the bass guitar and the drums for the "power".
I have also run a guitar and pedal through a tiny car size loudspeaker and captured the sound of that (all at low volumes) with very successful results.
Big sounds are not always big sounds, often they can be obtained at low volumes.
Does that help a little?
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sstyle7
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Thank you AudioCourses.
Thats cool. I've also captured great guitar sounds from a 6" speaker!
Anyway, I guess the underlying theme to all these questions in the forum is "go play with it!" If you are creative enough you can come up with anything.
WailingAlleyCat:
Say what you want about Heavy Metal, but I'm sure that there are CD's in YOUR collection that you hide when company comes over!
P.S.: You probably like Punk music don't you? |
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wailingalleycat
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yes ive been meaning to get rid of that spice girls album. Lol
actually im more into classic rock. ohh and i like muse...but thats not heavy metal.
Yes that was a very sweeping statement, just my opinion, try find me an engineer that enjoys seeing equipment smashed on stage. 
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