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Session Start: Sun Nov 21 20:28:52 2004
Session Ident: #audiocourses
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<`Rico> hi chris
<Audiocourses> hi there rico
<`Rico> hi hows it going
<Audiocourses> It's going ok...  and you?
<`Rico> yeah ok
<Audiocourses> good..  what's new?
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<`Rico> its really cold gere at the mo
<`Rico> here
<`Rico> nothing much new
<`Rico> hi ben
<Audiocourses> yeah chilly here too, but great heating inside ;)
<`Rico> hehe well the pilot light on my boiler keeps going out:/
<`Rico> annoying
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<lufc6> hello
<Audiocourses> the old pilot light gag huh...
<`Rico> lol hi sean
<ben_m> hi guys
<lufc6> hi
<lufc6> sorry bit late
<ben_m> flukey result yesterday...
<lufc6> lol
<`Rico> lol
<lufc6> don't get it!
<`Rico> that brian dean is past it;)
<lufc6> 6!
<lufc6> he is
<ben_m> that ref was dodgy
<lufc6> was he?
<ben_m> qpr was robbed!!!
<ben_m> ;)
<lufc6> now now boro are good
<ben_m> lol
<ben_m> touche
<`Rico> hehe
<lufc6> :)
<lufc6> and thew toon won in london
<lufc6> its the end of the world
<`Rico> yeah i got nowt to complain about today
<`Rico> lol
<ben_m> haha
<`Rico> o yeah, i've received my comfirmation slip off city n guilds
<`Rico> got it today
<Audiocourses> great
<`Rico> spelled my name right :)
<`Rico> doesn't happen often
<Audiocourses> well cut an dpaste it wonderful
<Audiocourses> lol
<`Rico> hehe
<lufc6> i'm getting paranoid about dates of exams is mt 02/12 rt 14/12 ?
<`Rico> yup
<lufc6> i know they are but
<lufc6> thanks rico
<lufc6> checked months ago
<lufc6> put them in my diary just wanted to hear
<lufc6> it from someone else
<`Rico> yup got the slip in front of me
<lufc6> cool
<lufc6> thanks
<Audiocourses> which one is first?
<lufc6> mt
<`Rico> mt
<Audiocourses> ok
<Audiocourses> That's the easiest one  ;)
<ben_m> cocky!
<ben_m> ;)
<Audiocourses> lol
<`Rico> lol
<Audiocourses> not
<lufc6> youre scarin me now
<Audiocourses> It's tough actually.. in my opinion
<Audiocourses> not so much room for "greyness"
<Audiocourses> Would you agree ben?
<ben_m> very black and white most of the time
<lufc6> been lookin at past papers v broad range it seems to me
<`Rico> yeah i was thinking that
<`Rico> where can i get hold of the other past papers, are they on the site?
<lufc6> got them at start i'm sure they are somewhere
<`Rico> cool
<lufc6> on site i mean
<Audiocourses> I have some, I wil post all the ones I have in the forums, for download this week.
<lufc6> thanks chris
<`Rico> great. thnks
<Audiocourses> prego
<Audiocourses> so..
<Audiocourses> who had a crack at the mocks?
<lufc6> yes
<`Rico> yeah both
<Audiocourses> good man
<Audiocourses> good men
<Audiocourses> Dod you cheat?
<Audiocourses> did you cheat?
<`Rico> nope lol
<lufc6> NO
<Audiocourses> great, I'm impressed
<lufc6> wish i had tho
<Audiocourses> did you dig deep into your brain for those answers?
<`Rico> had the urge
<Audiocourses> did theya rrive?
<Audiocourses> did they arrive?
<`Rico> very deep
<lufc6> some did yes
<Audiocourses> good
<`Rico> yeah a lot of the MT
<`Rico> not so many of th RT
<Audiocourses> that's cause MT is easy
<Audiocourses> lol
<`Rico> lol
<lufc6> lo
<lufc6> l
<Audiocourses> But it isn't....  lol I'm suprised..
<Audiocourses> So what areas are were blanks drawn?
<Audiocourses> general areas...
<`Rico> Timecode for me
<lufc6> dub echo de-essing
<Audiocourses> I expect there to a timecode questions in the real exam
<`Rico> yeah de-essing
<Audiocourses> de-essing is easy..
<Audiocourses> even the name gives it away..
<lufc6> not tghe techniques tho
<Audiocourses> what is de-essing?
<lufc6> removing sibilance?
<Audiocourses> yeah ok..
<lufc6> controlling it rather
<Audiocourses> removing artifacts that have a lot of ssssssss in them ...
<Audiocourses> controlling is a good word to use :)
<Audiocourses> so..
<Audiocourses> why did you find this tricky to implement?
<Audiocourses> how can you control this?
<lufc6> questiuon was about compressors
<Audiocourses> yes
<Audiocourses> but think about the concept...
<Audiocourses> what do we need to do..
<lufc6> control high frequencies
<Audiocourses> yes we do..
<Audiocourses> or high mid ones often
<Audiocourses> so..
<Audiocourses> how can that be done
<Audiocourses> ?
<lufc6> two ways depending on compressor
<Audiocourses> ok forget a compressor for a sec
<Audiocourses> crudely we could simply use an EQ unit no?
<lufc6> yes?
<Audiocourses> yes of course we could..
<Audiocourses> that would remove troublesome artifacts
<Audiocourses> but what is the tourble with that, why would that be considered crude?
<lufc6> takes everything around them out as well?
<Audiocourses> yes it does,  and also
<Audiocourses> when there is no troublesome spots...  i.e the signal is fine..   it also eqs that.. right?
<lufc6> ok
<`Rico> ok
<Audiocourses> so it is not dynamic is it?
<lufc6> right
<Audiocourses> it doesn't respond..
<Audiocourses> it doesn't respond to level.. at the input..
<Audiocourses> a compressor....
<Audiocourses> does
<Audiocourses> it's output is respondant to the input
<Audiocourses> no?
<lufc6> yes
<Audiocourses> so...
<Audiocourses> typically a compressor
<Audiocourses> operates over the full audio spectrum equally...
<Audiocourses> i.e. it compresses, or treats, or processes frequencies equally
<Audiocourses> what we need to achieve is to make the compressor change the gain of a particular band of troublesome frequencies
<Audiocourses> and only those...
<Audiocourses> so when the come through the compressor they are detected and reduced...
<Audiocourses> does this makse sense?
<`Rico> yup
<lufc6> yes
<Audiocourses> that is the concept...
<Audiocourses> now.
<Audiocourses> for technique, applied technieq.. can you cover it ben?
<ben_m> sure
<Audiocourses> thanks
<ben_m> so on your compressor
<ben_m> you have a threshold control
<ben_m> this sets the 'point' at which the compressor will begin to operate
<ben_m> now many hardware compressors have 2 inputs
<ben_m> the normal 'signal' input
<ben_m> the 2nd input
<ben_m> is often called a 'sidechain' or 'key' input
<ben_m> when you send a signal to the sidechain input
<ben_m> the threshold control on the compressor responds to the sidechain input
<Audiocourses> remind me to mention something else regarding that after ben is done.
<ben_m> you understand that?
<lufc6> yes
<ben_m> wanna mention it now chris?
<`Rico> yup
<ben_m> or shall i continue
<Audiocourses> yu go on ben, thanks
<ben_m> ok
<ben_m> so when tackling de-essing
<ben_m> using a compressor
<ben_m> you could do something like this
<ben_m> create a 'copy' of the signal
<ben_m> many ways of doing this
<ben_m> duplicating tracks, direct outputs etc
<ben_m> on the 'copy' of the original
<ben_m> find the sibilant freqs with an eq unit
<ben_m> a graphic eq is good for this
<ben_m> you can then either;
<ben_m> (a)
<ben_m> boost sibilant freqs
<ben_m> or (b)
<ben_m> cut all non sibilant freqs
<ben_m> you then feed this eq-ed signal to the sidechain input of the compressor
<ben_m> now, when words with excessive sibilance occur
<ben_m> they will produce a louder signal level than normal
<ben_m> you then set the threshold of the compressor (which is looking at the sidechain input)
<ben_m> to trigger on the sibilance
<ben_m> now although the threshold is looking at the sidechain input
<ben_m> the actual compression will take place on the 'normal' signal
<ben_m> so when sibilance occurs,
<ben_m> the threshold is exceeded
<ben_m> and the compressor 'turns on'
<ben_m> compressing the sibilance on the normal signal
<ben_m> this make sense
<ben_m> ?
<lufc6> yes
<`Rico> yup understood
<ben_m> sidechain inputs habe many uses
<ben_m> have
<ben_m> can be used for 'ducking'
<ben_m> rhythmic 'chopping' of a signal (on a gate rather than compressor)
<ben_m> also commonly used with kick drums and bass guitars
<ben_m> bass guitar is sent to compressor normally
<ben_m> kick to sidechain
<ben_m> when kick drums hits, the compressor pulls down the level of the bass guitar
<ben_m> making 'room' for the kick drum
<ben_m> you hear this on a lot of modern recordings
<ben_m> very effective when you have trouble in low freqs
<ben_m> chris you wanted to mention something about sidechains?
<Audiocourses> You covered it really ben with the the outro there....
<ben_m> ah right
<Audiocourses> but I also wanted to aks if anyone has actualy used a side-chain?
<`Rico> i havnt no
<lufc6> no
<Audiocourses> well it's about bloody time lads
<ben_m> lol
<`Rico> hehe
<lufc6> lol
<Audiocourses> Side-chains are cool...
<Audiocourses> hehe
<lufc6> steady
<Audiocourses> though not tobe seen much in the virtual world
<ben_m> indeed
<ben_m> rarer than rocking horse...
<lufc6> not easy in nuendo
<Audiocourses> lol
<Audiocourses> one thing..
<`Rico> i'll have a go in reason
<Audiocourses> ben mentions this.. using a signal to operate the side-chain...
<Audiocourses> where would you typicaly derive the signal from for this.. ?
<`Rico> thats something i was wondering
<`Rico> would it be a copy
<Audiocourses> ok..
<Audiocourses> I think you should really try hard to think in the real world here first...
<Audiocourses> mixing desk...
<Audiocourses> from where on the mixing desk...
<lufc6> an aux send
<lufc6> ?
<Audiocourses> gold star for sean...
<`Rico> from the channel
<`Rico> lol
<Audiocourses> the good thing about using an aux is...   ?
<Audiocourses> for a bonus pint..
<Audiocourses> ?
<lufc6> can mix the amount of signal?
<Audiocourses> two gold stars
<Audiocourses> as you turn the aux gain up... the effect would increase..
<Audiocourses> you can hear the difference in real time... this is good.
<Audiocourses> you get that rico?
<`Rico> yup
<Audiocourses> top drawer..
<Audiocourses> :)
<Audiocourses> anyone know how to use a side-chain on a gate?
<lufc6> theoretically same as comp
<`Rico> er no, i recall reading something about it
<Audiocourses> Anyone know what £ducking" is with reference to a noise gate..
<Audiocourses> that was "ducking"
<`Rico> that'd have to be a no
<lufc6> stop a signal when another appears
<Audiocourses> sean?
<Audiocourses> gold star....
<lufc6> like a voice over
<Audiocourses> OR
<lufc6> recduce its volume
<Audiocourses> reduce the original... by a set amount
<Audiocourses> yes good
<`Rico> man u better get a bigger jacket for all these stars
<Audiocourses> and....with proper use of the attack....
<Audiocourses> lol
<lufc6> olo
<lufc6> lol
<lufc6> olo
<Audiocourses> you cn make the colume decrease gradually...
<Audiocourses> that was volume not colon. lol
<ben_m> haha
<`Rico> heh
<ben_m> favourite of the radio dj
<Audiocourses> If you insert a noise gate over the main outputs (LR) of a radio station mixing desk...
<Audiocourses> and send some of the signal from the presenters vocal mic to the side chain input of the gate
<`Rico> aah yes i've heard that
<Audiocourses> the gate will respond to that vocal signal... and close the main LR... 
<Audiocourses> using the same technique
<Audiocourses> how could you use a noise gate to create a rhythm effect on a sustained guitar chord?
<lufc6> feed a rhythmic signal to the sidechain
<`Rico> yeah thinkin the same
<Audiocourses> yes that would do it..
<Audiocourses> like a snare you mean?
<lufc6> yeh
<Audiocourses> that would work..
<lufc6> or hats
<Audiocourses> have you tried?
<lufc6> no
<`Rico> no
<Audiocourses> gold star removed
<Audiocourses> rico on minus
<`Rico> lol
<ben_m> mwahaha
<lufc6> so unfair
<`Rico> aaw
<Audiocourses> lol
<lufc6> use my chopper
<lufc6> instead
<ben_m> errrr
<Audiocourses> oh my...
<Audiocourses> i'm off
<`Rico> xcuse me
<lufc6> lol
<Audiocourses> a loose sound engineer swinging his chopper
<Audiocourses> good job AIK ain't here an..
<lufc6> lo
<lufc6> llo
<`Rico> hehe
<ben_m> thats how i got the sack from my last job ;)
<Audiocourses> she wouldnt stand for that!
<Audiocourses> lol
<`Rico> lol
<Audiocourses> I heard about that ben..
<lufc6> lol
<ben_m> was in the papers
<ben_m> :)
<Audiocourses> yeah full page..  but had a star covering the main parts
<Audiocourses> lol
<`Rico> hehehe
<ben_m> lol
<Audiocourses> too much fun this... :)
<Audiocourses> guys
<lufc6> yes
<Audiocourses> you simply must try those two concepts... asap
<`Rico> right
<lufc6> diff in nuendo
<Audiocourses> important things to have have in the memory
<Audiocourses> well you could emulate it sean
<lufc6> please tell
<Audiocourses> ben any suggestions for this?
<ben_m> hmm
<ben_m> well, i know that tc native plug-ins offer sidechains
<ben_m> and that pro tools offers sidechaining as standard
<ben_m> if you go to the kvr site there may very well be a free plug in
<ben_m> that does this
<lufc6> tc only works with other tc plug-ins i think
<lufc6> kvr?
<ben_m> www.kvr-vst.com
<lufc6> thanks
<ben_m> excellent site
<lufc6> sidechainer for any plug-ins?
<ben_m> kvr might have plugins with sidechain facilities
<ben_m> works in same way as tc
<lufc6> i'll have a look cheers
<ben_m> there is a plugin called 'key'
<ben_m> put this on a channel
<ben_m> and it should be sent to to the compressor gate etc
<Audiocourses> Ok
<Audiocourses> enough of chains...
<Audiocourses> let's moveon quickly
<Audiocourses> I have a few questions...
<`Rico> ok
<lufc6> k
<Audiocourses> What is a ‘spin in’?
<lufc6> when a part is recorded to sep tape and played back at the appropriate time
<lufc6> to be recorded
<Audiocourses> Hmm.. ok you cut that doen for speed right?
<Audiocourses> down..
<lufc6> ye
<lufc6> sorry
<Audiocourses> let me ask this..
<Audiocourses> why is spin in needed?
<lufc6> when you've no spare tracks left and need to overdub a part not suitable for punch-in
<Audiocourses> kind ok..
<Audiocourses> typicaly...
<Audiocourses> this was done to repeat great takes...
<Audiocourses> so easily achieved in the cut and paste world.
<Audiocourses> i.e. a great vocal take during the second chorus...
<Audiocourses> so we record that great take onto another tape machine...
<Audiocourses> then.  SPIN IT IN... at the appropriate time on the original..
<Audiocourses> make sense?
<lufc6> yes
<`Rico> it does yes
<Audiocourses> ok
<Audiocourses> obvisouly this is easy now.. :)
<Audiocourses> with digital technology
<lufc6> thank god
<`Rico> lol
<Audiocourses> hehe
<lufc6> sounds like an art form
<lufc6> i'd be scared of screwing it up
<Audiocourses> Go check out Sgt Peppers..  (I'm sure you have)
<Audiocourses> You haven't?
<lufc6> waitin till i'm 64
<lufc6> lol
<`Rico> heh
<ben_m> :)
<lufc6> not for a good while
<Audiocourses> I used to listen to it on a ghetto blaster on the quay smoking fags when I was 14 lol
<lufc6> lol
<lufc6> fags?
<Audiocourses> I'm the only gay in the village you know.
<lufc6> lol
<`Rico> rofl
<lufc6> i heard it on a dansette first
<lufc6> with a penny on the ..........
<Audiocourses> on the?
<lufc6> cartridge?
<Audiocourses> hehe
<Audiocourses> :)
<lufc6> checked miself
<Audiocourses> OK..
<Audiocourses> any other worries...
<Audiocourses> what have we got now.. reading weeks?
<lufc6> no mocks just helped realise how much to do
<`Rico> yes
<`Rico> idd
<lufc6> yes
<Audiocourses> Reading weeks yes..  a couple of them?
<lufc6> one and a bit before mt
<Audiocourses> sure..
<Audiocourses> A good time this...
<Audiocourses> reflection time..
<`Rico> hoping the pennies all drop
<Audiocourses> Have you any plans for revision guy?
<lufc6> got a timetable
<Audiocourses> have yo.. ?
<`Rico> u have?
<lufc6> yes
<`Rico> of subjects or just time
<lufc6> just enough days to look at each task
<Audiocourses> That's a realy good idea, doubling as a chekc list almost.
<lufc6> one task a night till mt
<lufc6> then one a night till rt
<Audiocourses> Impressive sean.
<lufc6> just enough days i think
<`Rico> very
<lufc6> this is borne of bitter exoerience
<lufc6> not good at exams
<lufc6> but learning all the tiem
<lufc6> time
<Audiocourses> Yes exams are a very particular thing...
<Audiocourses> Please do aks if you need more techiques regarding answering... ben has some excellent tips.
<Audiocourses> and ways to examine the questions..
<lufc6> yes was gonna ask is it okay to post questions to you between now and exam
<Audiocourses> I find "would", "should" and "could" are useful.
<ben_m> do you guys have any particular queries about the way to approach questions
<lufc6> not really
<`Rico> no not really
<lufc6> is it okay to post questions to you
<ben_m> how do you mean 'post' - email?
<lufc6> in forum or email
<lufc6> whatever
<ben_m> right
<ben_m> fine with me
<lufc6> sometimes your explanations (both of you) are very good
<lufc6> most of the time
<Audiocourses> Yes and me. if you post in the releated topics we will get a mail notification..
<ben_m> most!
<ben_m> ha
<ben_m> ;)
<lufc6> all
<lufc6> :)
<`Rico> yeah post in the forum sean, that way i can see them, or you if i have any
<ben_m> best way in the forums
<lufc6> cool
<lufc6> thanks
<lufc6> in the classrooms then
<lufc6> or the chat thing
<lufc6> chill out
<Audiocourses> No in the related forum topics..
<lufc6> okay
<Audiocourses> much easier for all..
<Audiocourses> but do post up jokes in the chill out area..
<Audiocourses> I mean I like jokes..
<Audiocourses> lol
<lufc6> just rarely hear them anymore
<Audiocourses> and we need to smile lots during revision.
* Audiocourses grabs a cool beer
<ben_m> mmm beer
<`Rico> lol was thinkin exactly that
<`Rico> a bit of homer simpson in everyone
<lufc6> hehe
<ben_m> a lot in some of us
<ben_m> <burp>
<Audiocourses> hehe
<`Rico> heh
<Audiocourses> I was chatting with AIk this week..
<Audiocourses> she is also full on for the exams..
<lufc6> was just about to ask
<Audiocourses> so you guys ay catch her around... seeking help
<`Rico> ok
<lufc6> no prob
<Audiocourses> She is busy with theatre works etc...
<lufc6> she managing to catch up?
<Audiocourses> I think so yes..
<Audiocourses> also maybe if you lot showed a pic of your mugs, as she did, she may be encouraged more..
<Audiocourses> ;)
<lufc6> lol
<`Rico> hehe
<lufc6> forgot about that
<`Rico> same here
<ben_m> itchy chin
<lufc6> lol
<Audiocourses> hehe
<lufc6> not heard that for years
<ben_m> its a classic
<ben_m> timeless
<lufc6> hehe
<Audiocourses> So come on guys get your pics up..  e-mail them to me. or link to them from the uplaod area
<Audiocourses> billy beard
<ben_m> haha
<lufc6> i'll try and find one which doesn't upset too many people
<Audiocourses> ok sean, just use a bag if it;s realy that bad, you know?
<`Rico> i'll have to take one, don't have any digi ones
<`Rico> lolol
<Audiocourses> cardboard box with a face on it
<lufc6> lol
<Audiocourses> but make the effort ;)
<lufc6> graet idea
<`Rico> hehe
<Audiocourses> reminds me of something that, pics and faces..
<Audiocourses> check this, funny   http://www.audiocourses.com/error2.php
<`Rico> hahahaha
<`Rico> gotta love chemical ali
<lufc6> hah
<`Rico> i want a t-shirt with him on
<Audiocourses> print it off lol
<`Rico> hehe
<lufc6> you see him when he ran out of hair dye?
<lufc6> just after he was caught
<Audiocourses> no I didn't..  was it bad?
<lufc6> grey really grey all ofit
<lufc6> maybe he dyed it grey to evade capture
<Audiocourses> So you see..  we need faces
<lufc6> wot to laugh at!
<lufc6> :)
<Audiocourses> well yu keep telling us we will
<`Rico> i have some good adverts that tell the truth
<Audiocourses> I'm kind of excited now
<`Rico> i'll up them to the ftp
<Audiocourses> ok
<Audiocourses> then link the in the chill out zone
<Audiocourses> then link them
<`Rico> ok
<Audiocourses> cool
<Audiocourses> Great win yesterday eh guys?
<Audiocourses> (knows he is alone )
<lufc6> league yes
<`Rico> rugby?
<lufc6> union
<lufc6> yes
<Audiocourses> yeah the sensually shaped ball.
<`Rico> lol
<`Rico> yes a very good win
<lufc6> league
<`Rico> slacked off a bit for there last try
<Audiocourses> one missed tackle..... try.
<`Rico> true
<`Rico> but hey i sounded like i new what i was talking about ;)
<Audiocourses> lol it's far too complex to understand, right ben?
<ben_m> over my head
<`Rico> i never understand why the ref is blowing his whistle lol
<`Rico> fouls, no idea
<Audiocourses> lol
<lufc6> it really all could be in their ears!
<ben_m> in their cauliflowers
<lufc6> lol
<Audiocourses> dear me such stereotypical crap from grown men....
<lufc6> hehe
<ben_m> lol
<Audiocourses> worrying
<lufc6> just looks so painful
<ben_m> ask stan collymore
<Audiocourses> isn't til after...
<`Rico> lol ben
<ben_m> ;)
<lufc6> like being on the top of a mountain all the time with no hat
<Audiocourses> ?
<lufc6> ears sting
<lufc6> wind all that
<Audiocourses> lol do they?
<`Rico> lol
<Audiocourses> lol
<Audiocourses> That's funny..
<lufc6> anyway i like rugby
<lufc6> the proper kind
<lufc6> lol
<ben_m> the one with the chicken scratching movement?
<lufc6> eh?
<`Rico> what
<Audiocourses> wtf?
<ben_m> hehe
<Audiocourses> my round ben
<lufc6> ?
<`Rico> explain
<ben_m> that little kick they do when the game stops
<ben_m> like a backheel in football
<lufc6> oh
<ben_m> reminds me of a chicken scratching
<lufc6> lol
<`Rico> o right......
<ben_m> <gets coat>
<Audiocourses> is that right after the moment when you arehaving your post cigarette?
<lufc6> but they don't cavort all over each other when they've been tackled
<ben_m> lol i'm out of my depth now
<lufc6> rucks and mauls
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<Audiocourses> phewwwwwwwwwwwwww aik.. thanks..
<aik> hi there
<lufc6> hi aik just in time for the rugger chat
<`Rico> hi aik
<aik> the best time to come then
<Audiocourses> hehe cool
<aik> you might have been talking about that, but how were the mocks going?
<lufc6> did them this week good reminder of how much work still to do
<lufc6> and how much done
<`Rico> yes an eye opener
<lufc6> v useful exercise
<`Rico> i found it helpful to get into the position of taking an exam, brought out a lot of the answers
<lufc6> ye
<aik> did you pass?
<lufc6> not graded
<aik> I know
<lufc6> probably but not well
<`Rico> i think i might have scraped MT but i think i would have failed RT
<`Rico> lots of reading to do
<lufc6> did you do them aik?
<aik> no not yet.
<aik> i'm too far behind
<aik> i'll do them just before it gets serious
<lufc6> i'd recommend you try to
<aik> i certainly will
<Audiocourses> sean has created a revision timetable..
<Audiocourses> good idea
<Audiocourses> Guys..
<Audiocourses> same time next week?
<lufc6> yes
<`Rico> yeah fine with me
<aik> i should be fine
<aik> you never know
<Audiocourses> been busy huh aik?
<aik> next week is going to be madness
<aik> production week
<aik> but after that it should be calmer
<Audiocourses> right
<Audiocourses> well guys..
<Audiocourses> im around as you know... on yahoo or icq this week.. also the forums are read..
<lufc6> thanks ben chris see you aik rico
<ben_m> cheers
<`Rico> ok cya sean
<aik> nice to meet you for a brief moment
<lufc6> bye
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<aik> see you all next week
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<`Rico> bye aik
<`Rico> doh
<`Rico> ok c u guyz next sunday, enjoy ur week
<Audiocourses> see ya

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