sbuby
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Hi all,
it's a while that i don't see the forum but I stomped into this post....
Yes I do, i "compose" drum & bass
I found it one of the most complex electronic music, if we don't see the commercial side of it...many drums that have to fit together and so on.....
Some new intresting producers to give an idea of where d'n'b is now:
SPL, PHACE, TEEBEE, LIMEWAX, COUNTERSTRIKE (pritty hard), and then we'vr got a bit of musicl taste applied to this quite simple structured music as,
CALIBRE, HEIST...
I hope to move some intrest on this type of electronic music, as a sound engineer I must say that it needs to listened.
P.s. If u want to share some tips and tricks I'm in!!!!
Like: how to do bass line like: BOOOOOOOOUUUUMMMM!!!  |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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Hello there.. yes let's get soe discussion going.
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"how to do bass line like: BOOOOOOOOUUUUMMMM!!!"
What do you mean?
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Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:35 am |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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Oh I can make "fat" bass lines, I was just interested in what you meant by "BOOOOOOOOUUUUMMMM" so now I know.
Thanks.
What about the drums parts do you create some parts and then chop them up?
I know a common technique in ProTools (well any editor) is to create some drum parts then randomly slice them up against say a 16th grid and re-arrange them - providing some unique patterns.
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Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:02 am |
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sbuby
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hi everyone (better just me and u at the moment!!!),
Seems that u already know pritty much everything, or better the secret of all elettronic music is to get a sample choped up randomly and provide a unique pattern.
there are many software (as u said) that u can use, I'm pritty happy to use kontact2 and stylus rmx to edit my samples, but for drum and bass the important thing is to use a bit of dirty sample....with that I do not mean to use bad quality drums but try to sample from old records. Example my best "Amen"
it commes from an old hip hop tunes. I found jazz records intresting as well but of course anymusic could fit, Music is good becouse is freedom..
Other tecnique I've tried are distorting a bit the drum with a bit crusher or get some good sound with the VECTORY in reaktor, that by his own seems too dirty but with a bit of editing is fantastic.....
Then I don't know we may go into structure of the song here:
if your song is more oriented in a pure jungle track u need to edit fast change of beat each 4 bar or better little every 2.
If your song is more like a liquid, intelligent, or neuro funk, u will probably keep the drum quite simple and work a bit more on changing in bass line and synths.
I hope that I've answer your question.....
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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"Any suggestion for FAT bass then???"
Get yourself an old analogue synth module with 4 oscillators, tune them almost to the same pitch not quite (they will drift and beat randomly).... The natural distortions present in the analogue gear is what we all love, that dirty grainy harmonic overtone slush.
You can achieve the same with digital gear though, just mimic the analogue signal chains and distortions.
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sbuby
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hi "audio course", (I'd like to know your name)
good for the bass advice, but what do u mean by:
You can achieve the same with digital gear though, just mimic the analogue signal chains and distortions.
I've just tried a plug-ing in a studio...it's the analog channel emulator AC2,
is it those type of plug-ins that make your sound a bit more FAT or can u achive that sound with a bit of eq and some other chep stuff like waves????
Or even better can u suggest some cool plug-in (resonable price) that riproduce the same effect????
Now I get another point up, is it important when u mixdown d'n'b to do not clip the digital meters on the mixer or can you do it anyway to get a bit of "distortion"???
I belive that transient are not that audible by the human ears so can I may clip a bit the drums or fast transient on the mixdown process or I should keep everything at unity respecting the rule of the 0 levels??? |
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quote:
Originally posted by sbuby
Now I get another point up, is it important when u mixdown d'n'b to do not clip the digital meters on the mixer or can you do it anyway to get a bit of "distortion"???
I belive that transient are not that audible by the human ears so can I may clip a bit the drums or fast transient on the mixdown process or I should keep everything at unity respecting the rule of the 0 levels???
Interesting discussion guys..though I'm not much of a drums n bass kinda guy..
Yes, it is important to not clip anything in the digital domain. Unlike analogue, you wont hear a nice saturated sound, it will sound like its been through a bit crusher - and that doesn't sound musical at all. Try, it and see for yourself (but remember do drop your monitoring levels!).
I think for any genre, it is important to keep your signal dancing around the nominal level. |
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