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<Guest58280> it's Nancy, it didn't ask me to put in my nickname.
<Guest58280> How are you Aidan?
<audiocourses> log out and come back nancy
<Guest58280> fine, i'll go!
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<aido> not too bad
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<DaniCook> hay ho everyone
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<aido> greetings
<audiocourses> hi all
<DaniCook> how are you aid?
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<DaniCook> hi chris
<DaniCook> hi ben
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<audiocourses> there ya go nancy..
<resol69> ah-ha here I am!
<aido> well ben-another year in the wilderness
<ben_m> hi there
<ben_m> aidna - cant believe the result
<DaniCook> hi nancy, how did the move go?
<audiocourses> Sumfing ta do wiv da permissons nancy
<resol69> very smoothly, drowning in boxes, though!
<DaniCook> lol, i've still got boxes unpacked from two years ago, lol
<aido> I couldnt watch it-at least we wont have to face Everton in Europe-that would be pain
<resol69> that always happend Dani! LOL
<DaniCook> :-)
<DaniCook> how did everyone find the questions?
<ben_m> aidan - i saw it and it was gutting. pub had loads of man utd, chelsea and everton supporters
<aido> tahts why I didnt go to the pub
<audiocourses> Sounds like someone had died this week...  have they?
<resol69> I only worked ton them in the beginnin of the week, then I had to finish packing. didn't find enough info.  Hardly anything on the MT questions.
<aido> not quite but close
<DaniCook> yeah, they were a bit tough
<audiocourses> Last week of set questions huh..  always were gonna be tough.
<aido> I found it difficult to get specific answers to the noise reduction questions
<resol69> have to work on them more this week.
<DaniCook> well, you can feel satisfied that they were, lol
<ben_m> didnt get any answers this week
<ben_m> many even
<audiocourses> I noticed that.. ben
<aido> got to go for a while -back in 10 mins
<DaniCook> nancy was moving, aiden was watching football, and mike was being chewed by beavers
<resol69> tough week for all! :)
<DaniCook> :-)
<ben_m> lol
<audiocourses> How's the view Nancy?
<resol69> Great, I can see the mountains and I have two palm trees out my patio! Gottal love L.A.!
<audiocourses> sure enough...  veru nice!
<audiocourses> very ncie
<DaniCook> try again chris
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<DaniCook> are you typing with joey's fingers?
<audiocourses> Joey's fingers? Dani...
<DaniCook> deacon
<DaniCook> lol
<DaniCook> you must remember him,
<audiocourses> Too English... :)
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> How the climate there Nancy?
<resol69> 60s and 70s right now.
<DaniCook> oo, nice, we had a great summer in the 70's. but when will you get modern weather?
<resol69> very funny.
<DaniCook> :-)
<resol69> you're just jelous!
<DaniCook> too right i am, lol
<DaniCook> hey, anybody heard any DVD audio yet?
<resol69> not yet.
<audiocourses> Yes
<DaniCook> it's real nice
<ben_m> not DVDA or SVCD its meant to be pretty hot
<DaniCook> it is, got a demo with a new s/card i bought,
<audiocourses> It's loud!
<DaniCook> no, that's your amp, lol
<DaniCook> "look, it goes to 11"
<resol69> why not just make 10 louder?
<DaniCook> the reverb trails arte awsome
* audiocourses reckons dani took "bad humour" pills this week.
<DaniCook> "well, because.....it goes to 11, look...."
<audiocourses> Although I did watch Spinal Tap on Friday evening.
<DaniCook> hehe
<audiocourses> for the ummmm let me see..... 100th time?..
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> By the way Dani, it's not your job to be as confused as me..
<DaniCook> it's got a cult following, at least i think thjat's what they said....lol
<DaniCook> i'm very confused, lol
<audiocourses> Have you seen Spinal Tap ben?
<ben_m> yes - its a classic!
<DaniCook> you can learn a lot from it, especially about stage design/props, lol
<audiocourses> I was sitting in between my brother in law and girlf... pissing myself..they were both asleep...
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> Non musos don't seem to "get it"..
<DaniCook> i hate that
<DaniCook> that's true, they don't get "bad news" either
<audiocourses> Oh I don't mind, makes no difference to me if it stimulates them or not ;)
<resol69> or exploding drummers.
<audiocourses> Bad news is a classic in many ways also.
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> You seen Bad News Nancy?
<resol69> nope.
<audiocourses> Ahh,,  that would be one to watch..
<DaniCook> i was in a band once that didn't actually rehearse songs, we just sat around quoting bad news, in all the voices
<DaniCook> we never made it, lol
<audiocourses> lol
<DaniCook> 3 of them went on to become U2, but i'm not bitter
<resol69> LOL
<audiocourses> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6301520157/002-2254685-3579221?vi=glance
<audiocourses> I heard Donnington is returning...
<DaniCook> i've been trying to download it off e-donkey for ages,
<DaniCook> is it?
<audiocourses> Donnington being the large scale Heavy Rock festival..
<DaniCook> whre did it go?
<audiocourses> Yup over two days
<DaniCook> cool, when?
<audiocourses> Not sure.
<resol69> Always wanted to go to that festival.
<audiocourses> Apparently Iron Mainden are headlining one of the days
<audiocourses> Iron Maiden
<DaniCook> i'll be going to donny for the superbikes, not sure if my bum can take two journeys on the R6
<audiocourses> Mr Manson is there also..
<DaniCook> got to go then, love maiden
<DaniCook> not going, hate manson
<audiocourses> I'm not into his music much.. I would think he would be a good performer though
<DaniCook> although, i coould sneak in a high powered rifle.....*dani think whistfully about assinations*
<resol69> The crowds are just as interesting as the performance at a Manson concert.
<audiocourses> I'm sure the posturing would be first class
<DaniCook> lol, good call
<DaniCook> yeah, just before my first bullet rips through his/her skull
<DaniCook> sorry
<DaniCook> lol
<ben_m> brb
<audiocourses> Oh dear Dani such anger..
<ben_m> i'm back now
<DaniCook> sorry, someone cut me up today on my bike, it's allways a muiso who pays. remember buddy holly?
<audiocourses> Shit Ben that was nippy
<ben_m> that was quick wasnt it
<aido> im back too
<DaniCook> wb aiden
<audiocourses> man everyone back together.. let's light a candle
<DaniCook> lol
<ben_m> how many condensor microphones does it take to change a lightbulb?
<DaniCook> cum by yah my lord.......everybody.....
<resol69> peace man.Peace
<DaniCook> :-)
<DaniCook> yeah, let's give peace a chance man
<resol69> All we are saying....
<audiocourses> lol....    How was the gig last night ben?
<DaniCook> *lights up a huge bone*
<ben_m> it was ok thanks - used the line 6 again as i'm still waiting for the ashdown to turn up
<audiocourses> How is it?
<ben_m> its good - mostly useing the bklackface/twin emulation
<audiocourses> It's impressive modelling..
<ben_m> its good stuff, especially since you dont have to crank it up to get good tone
<resol69> amp modelling??
<audiocourses> Yes nancy
<audiocourses> Ben borrowed my Line 6 rig
<aido> for guitar?
<resol69> ah. I'm with you.
<resol69> brb
<audiocourses> this one: http://www.line6.com/products.asp?ID=75&action=1&item=78&tp=0
<audiocourses> I particularly like this quote "Rule the world with this stadium-ready, high power Stereo head- just the thing for when deafening isn't quite enough. "
<audiocourses> Did you rule the world in Plymouth Ben?
<DaniCook> lol
<aido> Im interested as I was thinking of getting a Behringer VAmp Bass Pro rack unit-due out this July
<DaniCook> does it go to 11?
<ben_m> ha! yeah, its was a good devonian crowd!
<ben_m> aido - the behringer stuff is good
<ben_m> I might get one myself
<resol69> back - had to refill the coffee.
<DaniCook> wb
<ben_m> welcome back caffeine freak
<aido> I have a Behringer Multi band compressor and a Virtualiser Effects unit-both are cheap and very good quality.Im using a Korg effects pedal for bass but its cumbersome to edit and quite noisey
<ben_m> the sansamp range are meant to be v good for bass stuff
<resol69> It's decaf, thankyouverymuch. :)
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<ben_m> :)
<audiocourses> We got a guest...
<ben_m> is it mike?
<aido> yeah but more expensive.I like the idea of amp modelling
<DaniCook> hopw this is mike
<audiocourses> me 2
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<resol69> Perhaps he broke free from the beavers.
<audiocourses> Ye ha Mike.. welcome!
<DaniCook> hiya mike
<ben_m> woo hoo!
<resol69> Hi MIke!
<DaniCook> lol@nancy
* audiocourses changes topic to 'Let's Get The Candles Out'
<aido> hi mike
<DaniCook> this is the first time we've all been together isn't it?
<resol69> I think so.
<mike_nostradamus> Hi everyone! sorry i'm llate
<audiocourses> Beautiful!
<DaniCook> i feel all warm and cosey, lol
* audiocourses smiles proudly
<DaniCook> aw, all your little duck all in one place
<DaniCook> ducks
<audiocourses> LOL anyone seen the Sopranos episode when the ducks fly away ? lol
<ben_m> yeah
<DaniCook> no, lol
<aido> yeah
<audiocourses> I love those ducks man
<mike_nostradamus> Bye the way that was a good discussion from the notes I rrad from last week
<audiocourses> Was it mike? What was it about?
<DaniCook> :-)
<mike_nostradamus> read!!
<mike_nostradamus> exam questions and all
<audiocourses> Ah ok.. got some more planned for this evening..
<resol69> or morning.
<audiocourses> sorry nancy.
<resol69> k
<mike_nostradamus> or aft!!!
<audiocourses> oh bollocks...
<audiocourses> today.
<resol69> LOL
<DaniCook> or mars
<audiocourses> My brain is fried today got excited after watching TRON this afternoon
<mike_nostradamus> what tron the movie
<audiocourses> Yes
<DaniCook> woh, good movie,
<DaniCook> ever watched it tripping?
<DaniCook> *cough* i haven't *whistles*
<mike_nostradamus> man thats old now!
<audiocourses> Nope.. but I can I imagine.
<audiocourses> lol dani..
<DaniCook> i really really really wanted a light bike when i was a kid
<audiocourses> :)
<mike_nostradamus> I spent last night at a rock concert with a thousand kids and their mothers
<resol69> who played?
<mike_nostradamus> It was bring your mom for mothers day to a packed house to high school rock band with a special guest called Snow.
<resol69> Snow the rapper? Sounds Jamaican?
<mike_nostradamus> thats right but he's Canadian!!!the girls went wild
<resol69> Yea, he had a hit here,"Informer" years ago.
<resol69> Had no idea he was Canadian!
<aido> never heard of him over here-anyone?
<DaniCook> and now he's playing high schools,
<DaniCook> which way do you think his carrer is going?
<resol69> poor guy.
<DaniCook> or career even
<DaniCook> i haven't
<resol69> did you like the show Mike?
<DaniCook> hey, but at least he's still doing it and bringing a lot of pleasure by the sounds of it, more power to him
<DaniCook> can't see U2 playing my high school
<mike_nostradamus> no he does'nt play high schools he was a guest and sent from EMI records as a scout for some talent but he got involved with the show.it was a suprise to all of us
<DaniCook> ahh, i see
<audiocourses> Ben..  just checking out answers..
<DaniCook> so he doesn't play high schols then?
<ben_m> yeah, what do you think?
<audiocourses> Exception of Dani...
<audiocourses> poor
<ben_m> indeed
<DaniCook> pardon?
<mike_nostradamus> the show was great! thats how these kids support themselves.to get around fr4om school to school
<audiocourses> OK guys
<audiocourses> Lets get into audio stuff and exams
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<mike_nostradamus> ok dokey
<DaniCook> ok
<audiocourses> MT first
<audiocourses> OK so this weeks attempt (for whatever reasons) was poor
<audiocourses> dani excluded
<DaniCook> :-) *someone shouts "swot"*
<audiocourses> You will have time now to make sure you cover these areas...
<ben_m> yes, it was poor - i'd like those who didn't manage to answer to post some answers up as soon as possible
<ben_m> its really important for the exam
<audiocourses> Do not simply ignore them hoping they will go away
<audiocourses> You are all more than capable..
<DaniCook> i tried that approach, it didn't work
<ben_m> yes, you all are - were there any reasons for the poor response this week - were they too hard?
<aido> I ran out of time but will type up the rest of answers after this session/tomorrows
<audiocourses> Sounds good aido... I'm excited about the audiocourses ducks representing us in those exam centres!
<DaniCook> were nancy and myselfs answers ok?
<audiocourses> Yes Dani the stuff that was posted was ok... just one thing I'll cover in a bit..
<DaniCook> ok
<audiocourses> You can all smile when you walk in those exam rooms... however not until you invest some quality time over the next few weeks.
<audiocourses> As mentioned last week....  you are getting two mock exams this week.
<aido> Chris-I know you talked about test answers with Nancy during week-surely we will be expected to pad out the answers a bit moreeu
<aido> mor-sorry
<aido> more
<DaniCook> i forgot it was this week
<audiocourses> Aido... I would certainly recommend not using one line answers and definately not one word answers.
<ben_m> no, there needs to be evidence of a deeper understanding
<audiocourses> Some of the qeustions are older style... and some of the model answers Nancy referenced,,, were in my opinion, weak.
<audiocourses> As I mentioned to Nancy..
<audiocourses> and as ben suggests
<audiocourses> JUSTIFY
<DaniCook> how do we justify say a question on delay times?
<audiocourses> You explain to the examiner your understanding of them.
<audiocourses> Look at it this way..
<ben_m> rather than answerm relate the mathematical principles
<audiocourses> Do not think the examiner or the exam is trying to fail you.
<audiocourses> All exam boards... (this included) are trying to pass people...
<DaniCook> hmmm
<DaniCook> i'm really sh*t at maths
<audiocourses> The board is not looking for errors..
<audiocourses> The board is looking for ways to pass you.... looking to award you marks..
<DaniCook> i see
<audiocourses> It's a very different, but a better way of realising the purpose of the exams...
<audiocourses> And it's true.
<mike_nostradamus> correct me if I'm wrong .i'm suppose to answer thre question with the way I think this should work or what I could do to make it work
<audiocourses> I have sat on exam boards myself and the remit is simply to pass as many people as possible..
<audiocourses> So you need to show the examiner you UNDERSTAND what is being asked of you.. - then you will awarded marks.
<audiocourses> Mike, to a certain extent yes.
<audiocourses> Shall we again look at some examples?
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<DaniCook> ok
<resol69> k
<audiocourses> 1) A computer is an essential part of music production and composition. Describe four different areas of application in widespread use and give an example of a popular piece of software in each area. ( 8 marks )
<aido> thats a very wide open question-you could end up writing  a lot of waffle
<audiocourses> You certainly could Aido..
<audiocourses> Top tip...  - avoid waffle..
<ben_m> break the question down though
<DaniCook> i assume it means music applications and not "word"
<ben_m> look at the actual questions being asked
<ben_m> in this case "application" and associated software
<ben_m> and you only have to list/explain 4
<DaniCook> 4 different thing you can do with music and four popular bits of software
<audiocourses> :))  gold star dani
<audiocourses> Editing : Recording and manipulating pieces of digital audio. Sound Edit, Sound Designer II
<audiocourses> Mixing : Recording and multitracking pieces of digital audio. Deck, Pro Tools, Soundscape
<audiocourses> Signal processing: Substantially processing pieces of digital audio to produce new sounds. SoundHack, GRM Tools, Hyperprism, Waves Plug ins.
<audiocourses> Sequencing : Writing and storing MIDI data to be sent through a MIDI interface to synthesisers or samplers. Cubase, Performer, etc.
<audiocourses> Sample or synth editors : Providing an on screen visual display for manipulating synth patches or samples from a separate piece of equipment. Alchemy etc.
<audiocourses> Any other reasonable answer.
<resol69> so it could be Pro tools for editing, T-Racks for mastering, with more detail of course.
<audiocourses> there ya go Nancy..
<mike_nostradamus> like midi ,recording,editing,ect....cubase,...
<DaniCook> so like 1/sampling 2/audio recording 3/midi recording 4/editing, mastering then list four programs you know
<DaniCook> but in more detail,
<audiocourses> You see you are all capable..  but take some time to exam (as ben stated) what is being asked.
<audiocourses> OK more..
<audiocourses> Ready?
<DaniCook> k
<mike_nostradamus> k
<audiocourses> 3) a) Which method of additive synthesis had widespread commercial success in the 1980s?
<DaniCook> fm
<audiocourses> yup
<audiocourses> make model?
<DaniCook> so you would explain what fm is
<audiocourses> yup
<DaniCook> DX7
<audiocourses> yup
<DaniCook> yamaha
<mike_nostradamus> yamaha dx7
<ben_m> good work dani
<audiocourses> FM synthesis is based on the principles of frequency modulation where one audio frequency waveform (modulator) is used to modulate another waveform (carrier). Only the modulator is heard in the output but sidebands are produced which are the sum and difference frequencies of the modulator and carrier. The greater the amplitude of the modulator the greater the number of sidebands.
<DaniCook> could you also say the DX7 had 6 operators where as other DX's only had four
<ben_m> you could but i dont think it would change the marking as that is not being specifically asked
<audiocourses> How this was implemented in the synthesisers that were commercially available
<DaniCook> jesus
<DaniCook> right
<audiocourses> How was this was implemented in the synthesisers that were commercially available?
<audiocourses> I mean
<audiocourses> lol
<audiocourses> How was this implemented in the synthesisers that were commercially available?
<audiocourses> there
<audiocourses> anyone?
<mike_nostradamus> musicians wanted a diffent sound
<DaniCook> they had multiple operators, some had 4, some has 6, 6 operator synth had a richer more complex sound, but it wasn'y untill the arivle of the dx11 that we finally got true 8 part mutitimbral fm
<mike_nostradamus> and engineers came up with this
<audiocourses> they did.. but how was this implemented in the box.
<audiocourses> yes dani....
<audiocourses> The FM range of synthesiser all had preset algorithms to link its operators together. The operators were connected in varieties of series and parallel connections. Each operator consisted of a sine wave generator and an envelope shaper.
<audiocourses> who has sound forge installe don their machine?
<DaniCook> me
<audiocourses> Load a file, click on tools, synthesis, FM
<mike_nostradamus> not me
<DaniCook> you turned a bit french there chris
<audiocourses> you can see the fm operators..and envelope shaper.
<audiocourses> lol dani
<audiocourses> you with us nancy and aidio?
<resol69> yup
<DaniCook> fm is king of organs
<audiocourses> OK more..
<aido> yeah
<audiocourses> Im aware time is ticking.. so lets' move speedily
<audiocourses> How does a digital oscillator produce a waveform?
<audiocourses> The sampled waveform is stored as a series of numbers. A clock oscillator reads those numbers at a speed determined by the frequency of the clock oscillator
<DaniCook> i don't mean to be awkward, but how does knowing that make you a good producer/engineer?
<audiocourses> That would be the smallest answer to write.... it doesn't..
<DaniCook> when would you ever use that information?
<audiocourses> It means you can study and apply yourself in order to pass an exam.
<resol69> no, but if something goes wrong, knowing how it works may help you fix it.
<DaniCook> and please don't say "in the exam"
<audiocourses> that's a good point nancy
<resol69> engineering is a lot of troubleshooting, I think.
<ben_m> it is nanacy
<audiocourses> I agree..
<ben_m> nancy sorry
<aido> youve got to know how instruments work to record them correctly
<audiocourses> yes.
<DaniCook> true
<audiocourses> OK let's move on.. this is the same kind of thing but probably more able to be "applied"
<audiocourses> 5) Describe the effect of the following modulations:
<audiocourses> a) A VCO is going into a VCF and to a VCA. The VCO is being modulated by another VCO producing a square wave with a frequency of 15 Hz.
<audiocourses> b) A VCO is going into a VCF and to a VCA. The VCF is being modulated by an ADSR.
<audiocourses> c) A VCO is going into a VCF and to a VCA. The VCA is being modulated by another VCO producing a sine wave with a frequency of 10 Hz.
<audiocourses> Gotta think that one through...
<DaniCook> a) the sound will go on and off b)the filter will change over time c) the sound will fadse in and out
<ben_m> dani - correct on (c) and (b)
<mike_nostradamus> you should'nt hear anything
<DaniCook> yeah, i just noticed the error on a
<DaniCook> a should just be a square wavw
<audiocourses> a) Two distinct pitches will be heard trilling at a rate of 15 times per second.
<mike_nostradamus> because its below the theshold of hearing
<DaniCook> ok
<ben_m> mike - the freq 15Hz is not relating to a pitch
<mike_nostradamus> ok what then?
<ben_m> itis rather changing the pitch 15 times a sec (15Hz)
<audiocourses> The key is in the term "modulated"
<DaniCook> the speed of modulation on the first vco mike
<audiocourses> got it mike?
<mike_nostradamus> not yet
<audiocourses> a VCO is a voltage controlled Oscillator
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<audiocourses> it outputs a pitch
<audiocourses> depending on the voltage appiled
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<audiocourses> applied
<audiocourses> if the voltage applied to it changed 15 times a sec..
<DaniCook> when you modulate the soundsource, it changes the core waveform,
<audiocourses> get it?
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<DaniCook> as oppsed to modulating the waveform, which is like putting vibrato or tremolo on
<audiocourses> This question comes under the banner of Analogue Synthesis or (subtractive synthesis)
<DaniCook> and we all pray we don't get that one
<audiocourses> Subtractive because we start with a waveform (triangular, square, sine etc)
<audiocourses> and then use the other (modules_ VCF ADSR etc to filter harmonics out..
<audiocourses> hence subtractive....
<audiocourses> whereas FM we add things together
<audiocourses> Moving on..
<audiocourses> This is a tough one..
<audiocourses> ready?
<DaniCook> no
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<resol69> k
<audiocourses> What's up dani?
<DaniCook> sshhh
<DaniCook> nothing, lol
<audiocourses> 11) What were the basic differences in approach to writing music between the new studios established in Germany and France in the 50s. Which of these techniques do you find most interesting or relevant in terms of music today and why?
<audiocourses> ( 6 marks)
<mike_nostradamus> holy mother of god while i give my beaver another log to chew on
<audiocourses> lol
<ben_m> lol!!!!!
<DaniCook> rofl
<aido> got me there
<resol69> huh?
<DaniCook> was it multitrack tape?
<ben_m> its more compositionally based this one
<audiocourses> I doubt this would crop up.. but it is in the bank of questions..
<DaniCook> the germans were crap and the french smeeled real bad?
<mike_nostradamus> could it be in use of edison recording drum
<aido> classical music?
<audiocourses> Dani.. kind of..
<ben_m> hehe
<audiocourses> audio, it kind of comes in that niche..
<DaniCook> WHAT? which anwer???
<audiocourses> The German studio used pure electronic sounds to compose music based on mathematical principles of total organisation while the French studios manipulated 'found sounds' and manipulated them using tape editing to create musique concrete.
<DaniCook> i was just going to say that!
<resol69> Now THAT info I would have no use for in a studio.
<DaniCook> !!!
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> lol
<mike_nostradamus> that was my answer too!!
<DaniCook> except in a neo fascist/avant garde studio
<audiocourses> It's the type of thing you can discuss in an italian piazza sipping chianti with your mates
<audiocourses> lol dani.
<aido> Id heard of music concrete but didnt think it was part of course
<audiocourses> It's not really..
<DaniCook> yeah, just before my mates "brick" me
<audiocourses> I remember that question created a big fuss when it was used..
<aido> cant see it going down too well in my local
<audiocourses> lol aido
<mike_nostradamus> I'll dicuss that with my mates while recording a bunch of loons on the lake
<audiocourses> You won't get it, but we want to scare you this week.
<aido> Eno has occasionally mentioned it in old interviews
<DaniCook> i've just covered an Eno song, lol
<mike_nostradamus> who the bllep is eno
<DaniCook> brian eno
<aido> really-dont tell me Babys On Fire
<audiocourses> Oh certainly the influences deep..
<DaniCook> (i think that's what aido meant
<resol69> who the hell is Eno?
<audiocourses> oh shit Nancy...
<DaniCook> no, "by this river"
<audiocourses> get into him
<aido> thats a nice one-Im a big fan
<DaniCook> he produced "the unforgettable fire"
<audiocourses> Didn't ENO do a U2 mix couple years back?
<mike_nostradamus> eno is something here for tummy aches
<audiocourses> lol
<resol69> OH.
<audiocourses> lol mike..really?
<aido> he had to earn money some how-dont blame U2 on him
<DaniCook> i've sythed it up somewhat, sounds real nice, messed about with some new production techniques
<audiocourses> lol aido
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> NOw
<audiocourses> next
<audiocourses> you'll love this one..
<audiocourses> and fitting after that brief encounter.
<audiocourses> 15) The development of music technology in the twentieth century has been a history of innovative individuals. Choose three people whose contribution to music technology has, in your opinion, been significant and why.
<audiocourses> ( 6 marks)
<DaniCook> ENO!
<audiocourses> lol
<DaniCook> Bob Moog
<mike_nostradamus> moog with synths
<audiocourses> yup
<DaniCook> daniel lanois
<aido> Brian Wilson,Brian Eno and just for fun Eddie Van Halen
<audiocourses> lol
<DaniCook> lol
<mike_nostradamus> why lanois dani
<DaniCook> millie vanilli
<aido> Id go into Wilsons composition skills,Enos experimentation and Van Halens chops
<DaniCook> because of the infinite guitar
<DaniCook> and cos his first name's daniel
<audiocourses> lol
<mike_nostradamus> i like his style lanois
<aido> that was really Michael Brooks not Lanois
<audiocourses> OK Im moving on..
<audiocourses> k?
<resol69> k
<DaniCook> really?
<DaniCook> k
<mike_nostradamus> k
<audiocourses> 2.   a) Excluding the host device, what is the maximum number of devices that may be attached to a SCSI bus? (1 mark)
<audiocourses>    b) If it is necessary to reconnect or reconfigure the devices on a SCSI bus what precaution should be taken? (1 mark)
<audiocourses>    c) How many terminators would there normally be on a SCSI bus? Where would they be situated? (2 marks)
<audiocourses>    d) A system incorporating two devices in addition to the host on a SCSI bus isn’t working correctly. What would you check on the SCSI devices themselves, assuming they are all switched on? (2 marks)
<aido> this is where I need to revise
<audiocourses> GOOD :)
<DaniCook> 1) not sure
<DaniCook> 2) make sure the device id doesn't clash
<DaniCook> 3) 1 at the end of the line
<DaniCook> 4) device ID and cables
<audiocourses> a) Seven
<audiocourses>    b) Switch everything off.
<audiocourses>    c) Two. One at each end of the bus.
<audiocourses>     d) Check that all the SCSI ID numbers are different.
<audiocourses> pretty good dani
<DaniCook> not bad
<DaniCook> wouldn't one end of the bus be attached to the computer though?
<audiocourses> yes but is considered a terminator..
<audiocourses> isn;'t it ben?
<DaniCook> ah, i see, nearly a trick question, because it makes you think of when you've terminated before and only used one
<ben_m> yes, the question is actually quite literal
<audiocourses> yes..  they like trick questions..
<audiocourses> moving on
<DaniCook> ok, cool
<audiocourses> a) You have connected a keyboard with 32 note polyphony to a sequencer and you find that it is only capable of 16 note polyphony when played manually. If the keyboard can give the full 32 notes when disconnected from the sequencer what has happened? (1 mark)
<ben_m> and it doesnt mean a cyborg from the future sent back to kill
<ben_m> sorry
<audiocourses> lol
<DaniCook> that's nice!
<audiocourses> head scratcher lol
<DaniCook> midi echo or local on is active
<audiocourses> ya
<ben_m> good dani - local is the bunny here
<audiocourses> The keyboard is set to Local On and the sequencer is passing the input data to the MIDI out, therefore each note is sounding twice.
<DaniCook> :-)
<aido> got it
<audiocourses> a) You are using a MIDI sequencer to record many complex tracks to be played on a MIDI system where several modules are chained together, THRU to IN. What might happen if you use Pitch Bend or Control Change messages excessively?
<DaniCook> it could cause too much data thru the MIDI cable which could mean certain notes would arrive late,
<audiocourses> yup..
<audiocourses> a) The bandwidth limit of MIDI may be reached and the sequence will slow down or not play correctly.
<aido> you might exceed polyphony of some devices causing drop outs or lost notes
<audiocourses> yes aido
<audiocourses> one more..
<mike_nostradamus> y
<audiocourses>    a) Correct the timing of a string sound with a slow attack that has been quantized to quarter notes? (1 mark)
<audiocourses>    b) Lower the level of a track without changing anything else? (Mention a Control Change message). (1 mark)
<audiocourses>    c) Add a single echo to a track at the same level as the original? (2 marks)
<audiocourses>    d) Quantize all but one bar of a sixteen bar section? (2 marks)
<audiocourses> ooops
<audiocourses> here this is the full question:
<audiocourses> 10.   When using a MIDI sequencer, what should you do to…
<audiocourses>    a) Correct the timing of a string sound with a slow attack that has been quantized to quarter notes? (1 mark)
<audiocourses>    b) Lower the level of a track without changing anything else? (Mention a Control Change message). (1 mark)
<audiocourses>    c) Add a single echo to a track at the same level as the original? (2 marks)
<audiocourses>    d) Quantize all but one bar of a sixteen bar section? (2 marks)
<audiocourses> MIDI minefield?
<ben_m> hehe
<ben_m> they're decptively simple
<DaniCook> 1) move the note backward in time a number of beats
<audiocourses> yup
<ben_m> good
<DaniCook> 2) use volume change messages to affect the voulme on the track
<ben_m> and the CC # is...
<DaniCook> don't know
<ben_m> you're right in the first instance, but the number is 7
<audiocourses> and he created the earth on?
<ben_m> hehe
<DaniCook> 3) copy the track on to a free track and move it forward in time
<ben_m> CC message is sunday
<audiocourses> day of rest
<ben_m> good again
<DaniCook> set qunatize markers to only quantize within a specified area
<ben_m> yes, or if working with parts you could...?
<ben_m> not using paper or stone
<audiocourses> lol
<DaniCook> select only the parts you wanted to quantize, or quantise one part and paste it over the other three
* audiocourses changes topic to 'Breath Again.... :))'
<audiocourses> OK ok ok..
<audiocourses> Just looked at the clock...
<audiocourses> So to summarise..
<audiocourses> is everyone cool? lol
<aido> lets hope the exam goes as quickly
<audiocourses> It wil fly I'm sure..
<audiocourses> So I will e-mail your mock exams...
<audiocourses> They will be as a text file..
<mike_nostradamus> chrish have you got confirmation on my testing
<DaniCook> lol
<audiocourses> Mike yes we have now..
<audiocourses> it is positive..
<mike_nostradamus> whew!!! thanks
<audiocourses> you got beaver sickness
<audiocourses> I'll ship the pills out..
<DaniCook> lol@chris
<ben_m> lol
<mike_nostradamus> Beaver sickness is not funny! funny things happen to you
<ben_m> hehe
<audiocourses> Seriously Mike yes.. but you need to talk with them regarding where to go exactly etc. As you all do.
<audiocourses> Tomorrow.
<audiocourses> or this week at least.. no later..
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<audiocourses> Listen. Regarding mocks..
<resol69> when will they get the tests?  I was told to call before the exam to make sure they have it.
<DaniCook> done it
<audiocourses> Please do treat them as such..
<audiocourses> give yourself two slots of three hours on different days
<audiocourses> It's important you put yourself in the "zone"
<aido> did you send out centre details?
<audiocourses> yes aido you got mail.
<aido> when-in last few days?
<audiocourses> I want to be able to talk about how you felt in those three hours lsots next week.
<audiocourses> today aido
<aido> ah-on my work PC-Ill check it out in morning
<audiocourses> The mock exams are pointless if you cheat..
<DaniCook> yup
<audiocourses> OK so I'm sure we have places to be now.. Guess what?
<aido> what?
<audiocourses> Girlf has cooked Duck for dinner.
<DaniCook> what?
<ben_m> for ducks sake...
<aido> my favourite
<audiocourses> lol
<DaniCook> oooo, bonus
<DaniCook> you looky man
<audiocourses> same time next week?
<resol69> OK
<DaniCook> you look after her,
<aido> suits me on Sundays best
<mike_nostradamus> yes
<audiocourses> I would suggest you perhaps get together for some extra revision with each other..
<DaniCook> me too
<audiocourses> you all have something to offer each other if you know what I mean.
<mike_nostradamus> me too i'm off all week plaese help
<DaniCook> on chat room?
<audiocourses> yes why not..
<aido> good idea
<audiocourses> If I see you online and I'm not busy I'll jump in too.
<DaniCook> work/time difference might be a prob
<resol69> I can't use chat rooms at work, I'll join you if I can.
<audiocourses> sort out one or three chat sessions amongst yourselves.
<aido> I cant use chat rooms either
<audiocourses> why not pick a topic each
<audiocourses> nancy - midi
<audiocourses> dani - synth
<audiocourses> mike -pcs
<audiocourses> aido - music
<audiocourses> and make three questions
<audiocourses> send one e-mail a day
<resol69> No way, MIDI is my worst subject
<audiocourses> to be answered.
<aido> ok ill give it a go
<DaniCook> that's the idea nancy
<resol69> whatever
<DaniCook> you need to know about before you can ask questions on it
<audiocourses> copy them to me when you send if you like... i'll keep an eye on them
<audiocourses> ok the duck is quacking..
<DaniCook> i'm gonn have to go, gf in bath, thunderstrom on it's way, it's time to be manly, lol
<audiocourses> I gotta go.. see you all
<aido> enjoy your meal -see you next week
<mike_nostradamus> see you all
<audiocourses> bye all.
<ben_m> cheers eveyone
<DaniCook> good luck nancy, don't worry,
<DaniCook> seeya ben
<audiocourses> ben will mail reagrding mock prep
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<audiocourses> cheers.
<DaniCook> seeya chris
<aido> ben-im going to drown my sorrows down the pub-see you next week
<ben_m> cheers
<ben_m> aido - i know the feeling - i'm off to spend our transfer budget on booze
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<DaniCook> bye all
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<ben_m> bye dani
<aido> at least we might get Duff and Finan-add a bit of Irish quality
<ben_m> yeah, true. like to see duff, not 100% about finnan to be honest
<aido> true- its not defenders we need
<ben_m> we need a creative midfielder
<aido> bring back Ronnie Whelan
<ben_m> id settle for jan molby right now
<ben_m> ha
<aido> anyway take it easy-see you all
<ben_m> cheers aido, see you all later - i'm off too
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