thadefendent
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Whats up all, Im a beginner at recording maybe not even that far yet, i need advice on mics. I do all my recording on cep2 and have a cheap mic that i plug in to my pc like you would with your headphones. Any suggestions on upgrading mics? will i need an amp for the mic or any other equipment and can i hook it up to my pc. i have a limited buget of bout 500$ usd is it even possible? my vocals sound good but i want to make em better when i rap. advice is appericated |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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Originally posted by thadefendent
Whats up all, Im a beginner at recording maybe not even that far yet, i need advice on mics. I do all my recording on cep2 and have a cheap mic that i plug in to my pc like you would with your headphones. Any suggestions on upgrading mics? will i need an amp for the mic or any other equipment and can i hook it up to my pc. i have a limited buget of bout 500$ usd is it even possible? my vocals sound good but i want to make em better when i rap. advice is appericated
Well you might want to look at improving your audio interface (sound card / pre-amp ) and also get yourself a capacitor style microphone. You can get some very inexpensive capacitor microphones these days check out the Nady range. Be warned the audio interface you purchase will need +48v (phantom power) to run a capacitor microphone.
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amitbarde
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[quote="AUdIoCoUrSeS"]
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Originally posted by thadefendent
Well you might want to look at improving your audio interface (sound card / pre-amp ) and also get yourself a capacitor style microphone. You can get some very inexpensive capacitor microphones these days check out the Nady range. Be warned the audio interface you purchase will need +48v (phantom power) to run a capacitor microphone.
Well you would surely need a good sound card. But as far as mics go. you really don't have to go in for capacitor microphones. You could just go in for something like a Shure SM58 which will do just fine for vocals. And yes a budget of $500 should be enough. Check out this link for some good soundcards and microphones.
http://www.sweetwater.com |
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Wed May 24, 2006 7:49 am |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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Originally posted by thadefendent
Well you might want to look at improving your audio interface (sound card / pre-amp ) and also get yourself a capacitor style microphone. You can get some very inexpensive capacitor microphones these days check out the Nady range. Be warned the audio interface you purchase will need +48v (phantom power) to run a capacitor microphone.
Well you would surely need a good sound card. But as far as mics go. you really don't have to go in for capacitor microphones. You could just go in for something like a Shure SM58 which will do just fine for vocals. And yes a budget of $500 should be enough. Check out this link for some good soundcards and microphones.
http://www.sweetwater.com
Sure you can go for an SM58, though if you intend this microphone for vocals (rap I think you said) you'll always wonder why your vocals do not sound anywhere near the sound that your favourite artists have. Then you'll discover you need a capacitor, capacitor mics are so inexpensive these days there is no argument for not having one for vocals. SM58s are good as a live vocal mic not studio, the frequency range is so limited.
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conquistadore
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And since you do have 500USD..even I'd suggest a condensor. There are loads of companies out there that make cheap but really really good condensors. |
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Calipso
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And i would recommend the Rode NT-1A for vocals any day. Great mic! |
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thadefendent
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i have been looking at mics but my budget dropped so i am not gonna be able to spend as much as i hoped but i checked some local stores and asked for recommendations and they didnt have any clue. what kinda frequency range would be suitable for recording vocals for rap? and can someone tell me the difference between unidirectional and omnidirrectional mics? is one for live vocals and one for studio recording? if im even close the ppl i talked to at the store need to look for a new job! |
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ben m
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Hi,
for studio recording, especially in an acoustically untreated environment, I would plump for a capacitor (aka condenser) microphone with a cardioid polar pattern - this means the mic will not pick up sound from behind the mic which for vocals is perfect.
A capacitor mic will require phantom power (+48v) so you will need to either (a) get a soundcard that provides phantom power, (b) buy a mic preamp or (c) buy a small mixing desk.
Regards the microhphones, there are some really good budget options out there.
You could look at something like the Studio Projects C1 (http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/c1.html - about $200 street price) coupled with the Studio Projects VTB-1 preamp (http://www.studioprojectsusa.com/vtb1.html - $100 street price) This would give you everything you need for aprox $300 and you can also use the VTB-1 as a DI Box.
The C1 got a lot of hype when it was released as many people claimed that it sounded VERY similiar to the industry standard Neumann U87 (about $2700 street price)
Another option would be to look at the Audio Technica range of microphones, in particular the AT3035 (around $200) and the AT4040 (around $300) or maybe a second hand 4033. I'm a big fan of the Audio Technica mics in this price range and use the AT4033 frequently at the studio - the AT3035 has better technical specs however and is quite a bit cheaper!
You could then purchase a preamp/channel strip of your choice to go with one of these mics.
If your budget is limited further than the original $500 then I'd go for the Studio Projects option - they come in cheap and also the preamp is voiced to work well with that particular mic.
Oh yes, remember to get a pop shield as well, essential when recording vocals, especially hip-hop/r'n'b - I guess they are around $30.
Good luck and let us know how you get on! |
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thadefendent
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ok i think ima have to stick wit wat i have. if its not broken, dont try to fix it! i recently produced an album for a friend of mine with a 30$ usd mic and ppl round town love the production and recording. they played one of the songs one the radio tonight and they said the sound qulity was really good. im proud of dat! i wanna thank everyone who gave me advice on this forum! but hey if its not broken, make it better! i use cool edit pro 2.0 for my recording is a 300$ usd mic really gonna make that much difference for hip hop vocals? |
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