slcatvip
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| E-MU 1820 PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!??????? |
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Hi! Can someone please help before I go insane???? I bought an E-MU 1820, because I was assured that using this and a Behringer ADA8000, I could get 16 tracks into my PC. I am somewhat new at this stuff although I have been a musician for years.
It seems to me that the audio docks' inputs on the rear are PAIRED in stereo so I really don't have 6 inputs there, but rather, 3 in stereo. Is it possible to break these up? I was under the impression that I could use these 6 inputs, plus the 2 mic/line plus the 8 from the Behringer. Patchmix ALSO seems to recognize the Behringer ADA8000 as 4 stereo inputs instead of 8 full inputs as well? How do I get 16 full inputs into my PC with this stuff???? PLEASE HELP????? Thanks!!! |
Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:59 pm |
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conquistadore
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| Yes they can be broken up - routing in your DAW |
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Welcome to the forums!
Could you tell us what audio software you are using to record?
Because, your input/output configuration of your the E-MU and Behringer will have to be configured in your audio software. Dont worry! They can be broken up as mono inputs. You do have 6 mono line inputs, 2 mic inputs, and another 8 inputs from your behringer ada 8000. All we have to do now is instruct your audio software to look at them as seperate mono inputs and now stereo inputs. So if we know what software you are using it would be easier to give you a step by step solution.
Also, just out of curiosity - how is your Behringer ADA 8000 connected to your PC? |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:42 am |
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slcatvip
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| E-MU 1820 HELP!!!! |
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Thanks so much for responding, this has been so frustrating! I am trying to use CubaseLE as recording sofware. I have other options. These came with the 1820. The Behringer is connected to the 1010PCI card via optical cable.
Of course E-MU uses Patchmix, and so far I can find nothing in Patchmix that even indicates breaking these inputs up, in fact Patchmix "looks at" the Behringer like it is 4 stereo inputs as well???
My PC is a 4 month old Dell Dimension 5150 that is completely dedicated to this, (so there is nothing on it yet and plenty of power and all).
I have a Yamaha analog mixer that I would like to use just for the mic preamps, so I have "sent" 6 channel outputs from the Yamaha over to the E-MU audiodock inputs.
I have actually managed to configure the Patchmix program to get signal to Cubase, but after 2 months of doing this it still is seeing the audio dock as 3 paired inputs and the behringer as 4.
Again, thank you so much for responding!!!! |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:00 pm |
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conquistadore
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Hmm, its Cubase LE, from what I've read the 'VST Connections' option doesnt exist in LE, so you cant really configure your inputs and outputs in Cubase, it will have to be done from the PatchMix console.
I havent used E-Mu hardware, I'll check it up and get back to you..
But until I find out, I think each of your inputs should appear in Cubase LE as Stereo inputs (Stereo Input 1, Stereo Input 2, Stereo Input 3..etc..). SO if you want to record mono signals, connect say your guitar to input 1 and select "Stereo Input 1>Left" in the input section of your mono track, for input 2 you would select "Stereo Input 1>Right" and so on..
Makes sense? |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:58 pm |
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conquistadore
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| Only 4 I/O |
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Found out something else. It seems Cubase LE just supports 4 simultaneous inputs and outputs. From what I make out fo it, all you would see in your input section would be "Stereo In 1" and "Stereo In 2".
EDIT: You might find this article useful
Emu's Patchmix DSP Demystified...
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:03 pm |
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slcatvip
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| E-MU1820 |
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so maybe I should upgrade to the full version of Cubase??? As i said, I am just using what came with the 1820, there is also SonarLE but I haven't explored that yet.
I got started in all this with a Yamaha AW16G, but not enough channels for my band so that led me to this interface/PC world.
Anyway, any recommendations on software???? You can't know how much i appreciate your help, It is light at the end of a tunnel!!!! |
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Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:39 pm |
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conquistadore
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| Upgrade |
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Light at the end of the tunnel! 
Hmm.. yes if you want to record more than 4 sources at a time it would be a good idea to upgrade to Cubase SX. I think its worth upgrading because LE hardly has anything in it (it isnt going to be very easy mixing with just 2 inserts on each track and so many other limitations).
Sonar is good too, and so are all the other major digital audio workstations! Since you are using a PC, Cubase and Sonar are the cheaper options - cost wise, and they both do come 'loaded' with enough to get you started. |
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Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:17 am |
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slcatvip
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| E-MU1820 progress AND more questions!!!!????? |
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Hello from the very chilly northeast!!!
I got more questions, but here is my progress so far, after getting very appreciated direction from you, I picked up Mackies' Tracktion sofware and suddenly.......I have all my inputs, which to me seems like a major deal after struggling so hard with all this.
I have managed to record some test tracks, but it seems when I play back, they are "slower" than I recorded them at.....I.E. when I try to play guitar along with what I just recorded it is out of "key" and my vocal is the same way, sounds to me "lower" pitched.
Is this some of this "word clock" stuff I keep reading about and if so, what should be the "master".......the Behringer ADA8000? or the E-MU1820????
I did in the process of all this add a new video card to my PC so that I could split stuff between two monitors, but this shouldn't have any effect on sound should it???? |
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Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:10 am |
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conquistadore
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| word clock master and slave |
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Hello slcatvip!
Yes, this is happening because of a difference between your recording and playback sample rates. You are playing back your audio at a lower sample rate, and that is why your recorded tracks sound slower and lower in pitch - because they are being read slower than they should be.
I think it would be better if you set the E-MU as word clock master. In patchmix or in Tracktion itself you would have to set the word clock setting as internal.
Now in your previous post you have mentioned that the Behringer is connected to the computer through optical via a 1010 pci card. I assume you mean an M-audio 1010 pci card?
In this present setup, the 1010 seems quite useless. The E-MU also has ADAT optical inputs and outputs and it would make more sense to connect the optical outputs of the Behringer into the E-MU card because it will simply make your signal flow simpler and reduce word clock induced headaches!
Since the E-MU does not have a dedicated word clock BNC output, you can use the optical connection itself to provide clocking information (digital formats like ADAT, SPDIF and AES/EBU allows for this to happen). The behringer, although having a word clock in connection, just like most other equipment can accept clocking information through the ADAT input.
So what you would have to do is connect the ADAT in and out from the E-MU card to the ADAT in and out of the Behringer. Then, you would have to set the word clock as internal for the E-MU (I guess in patchmix itself, if you cant find out where..do ask.) and on the Behringer's rear set the 'Sync' switch to ADAT in.
Now the E-MU is word clock master, and the Behringer is word clock slave.
This should sort out your problems. |
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