Rmuse
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I use a Roland VS2000 and want to dump tracks into my PC. I do not know what I need to do this. Sound card? Interface? etc.
I plan to use either Pro Tools or Sonar. Something like one of those. I do have a new PC with lots of memory and a fast processor. But I am absolutely clueless as to where to proceed from here.
Thanks
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conquistadore
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Welcome to ACF!
Yes you would need a sound interface and a software capable of multi track recording. It would be great if you can give us a budget - how much you want to spend on the interface and software. It would be easier to narrow down options then - since there are just too many out there! |
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:39 am |
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Rmuse
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Hi,
Thanks for replying to my post. My budget is what I need it to be. I can't offer a bank, but I want a good piece of software and will spend as much as is necessary for a really good interface if that's what is required. I just don't know where to start. I know that there are mbox with pro-tools for around $300 and as far as interface, I guess it is the resolution? My VS 2000 will transfer files thru USB to the computer and can make them into WAV files. Any really appreciate your time and assistance. I plan to enroll in your courses shortly after my wife and I travel to England this summer. I love the podcast also.
Thanks so much
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Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:44 pm |
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conquistadore
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| PT LE/Cubase/Logic/Cubase |
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Pro Tools LE with the M-box 2 is a great combination if you ask me. And with the M-box mini you can go Pro Tools way for just $300.
It really depends on what you are looking at. If you plan to just edit, record and mix - Pro Tools is great, actually wonderful! But if you are looking at music production (MIDI, Virtual Instruments, Programming) Pro Tools can be a bit of a pain - this is what I feel personally, but its not like it cannot be done. Although from version 7 onwards they have been adding new features to aid in music production, it still does not match up to Cubase/Logic.
Also, with Pro Tools LE, you will be limited to just 32 mono tracks or 16 stereo tracks in each session. If you do require more tracks you will have to shell out to buy add on kits (like the Music Production Tool kit), and they dont come cheap. If this doesnt stop you, theres no harm buying Pro Tools LE at all.
Other options include Steinberg Cubase and Apple Logic. Logic is a wonderful software and the plugins and loops that come with it are great, but it is limited only to the Mac OS.
Cubase is a wonderful DAW for its price, and unlike Pro Tools it isnt 'locked' down to any hardware - it supports any interface that can run on ASIO drivers. It has a wonderful MIDI environment and its native plugins are enough for you to atleast get started with. It has a good audio engine and is extremely flexible for both editing and recording. It also doesnt have limitations on track count, although the hardware configuration of your computer will set a limit. Another advantage with Cubase is that the plugin format it supports (known as VST) is available for any one to develop - so there are tons of both free and paid for plugins available. And it does have a quick learning curve and shouldnt take you too long to figure out how things work with its good Help menu and detailed manual.
Another option is Cakwalk Sonar. I have worked on version 3.1 a couple of years back and its similar to Cubase as long as the learning curve and flexibility is concerned. Version 6 is out now and I've been hearing a lot of good things about it.
A far as hardware is concerned you can look at lower priced
M-Audio
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Focusrite
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MOTU
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RME
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Also
Digidesign
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Steinberg
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Cakwalk
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Check out these links and let us know what you think. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:35 am |
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conquistadore
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Originally posted by Rmuse
Hi,
I just don't know where to start. I know that there are mbox with pro-tools for around $300 and as far as interface, I guess it is the resolution? My VS 2000 will transfer files thru USB to the computer and can make them into WAV files.
Could you give us some information as to what you plan to do? Mix/record/edit or all? Accordingly we can zero in on an interface/software.
Most sound interfaces these days do support 24bit resolution of play back and record. So if you record at 24bit on the VS2000, you really shouldnt worry about any problems. And as of now, 24 bit is the maximum recording resolution offered and I dont see it increasing in the future as 24 bits is more than enough as long as recording and play back is concerned.
If we know what you plan to do, then we can decide if you need Preamps, Hi-Z/Line Inputs, MIDI I/O, number of inputs, number of outputs, Digital/optical I/O..etc.. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:31 am |
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tarnee
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Just google and get a multi track recording software. |
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:16 am |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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quote:
Originally posted by tarnee
Just google and get a multi track recording software.
Yeah I think he wanted some quality advise on which one.. which he got.
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:50 pm |
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Rmuse
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Yes, I bit the bullet and got an MBox 2 with Pro Tools. I really don't like it, but little by little I am learning the software. I still track using the VS 2000 as I am very comfortable with it and it meets my needs.
I will say that choosing Pro Tools was (in hind-sight) not the best move. The limitations in hardware and plug-ins is frustrating. I am considering another DAW because of the reasons you all have offered. Thank you for all the great advice. These forums are a gold mine of information.
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conquistadore
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Hi Ron!
Well..do spend some time with it. Most of these DAWs can be a bit frustrating for the first time you start using them. Spend some time with the manual (the manual of PT is well written) and grab the basic concepts of editing and you should be flying.. PT is simply great for editing and tracking..
In what way do you find the plugins limiting?
Every new environment is uncomfortable until you get used to it and understand it. |
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