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David Selonke has joined the conference.
Ken Boatman has joined the conference.
Me bisto has joined the conference.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR has joined the conference.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Hi Guys
David Selonke: hiya
ben_audiocourses: hey everyone
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Good to be back
Ken Boatman: Hello
ben_audiocourses: how is everyone this fine sunday
ben_audiocourses: ?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: This new time has me all screwed up.
Ken Boatman: tired!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I'm fine but tired
ncmcmahon has joined the conference.
ben_audiocourses: ah, have you guys changed times over there? we don't change for another couple of weeks in UK
David Selonke: I came an hour early
David Selonke: lol
ben_audiocourses: haha
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: We changed ours three weeks early this year
David Selonke: i dont know y
ben_audiocourses: wow really?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: So did I Dave.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I asked Chris if we were having class today and he came back and said yea in an hour.
ben_audiocourses: haha
Me bisto:
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Hi Chris
ben_audiocourses: who was missing last week, just you daniel and david?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I was, I was in Death Valley for a week.
David Selonke: ya, had some good 'ol military training
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: The Driver I replaced had a massive stroke and is still in the hospital in California
ben_audiocourses: ok, well you guys who missed last week missed meeting a few new students, nancy is here right now, others should be here soon
ncmcmahon: hello. No skiing this week, but I did get 2 feet of snow at home on Friday!
David Selonke: Hi Nancy!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: We had a Cat Test Truck in Death Valley and the driver had a stroke so I had to go and take over the truck. You know, keep others from looking under the hood and etc. lol
ben_audiocourses: haha
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: All our test trucks have new proto type engines and etc. in them. Industrial Espionage you know. lol
David Selonke: ya, couple weeks ago we had the snow storm of the year, 8 foot drifts!!!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I remember that
ben_audiocourses: wow you guys really get some radical weather compared to us Englanders!
David Selonke: i was stranded at work...it sucked
jaxtec2000 has joined the conference.
jaxtec2000: the guy on next after the girl in the frist hour
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I was stranded at home. If I had of been t work I would have found a way home. lol
ncmcmahon: I'm missing Los Angeles about now. No snow there!
ben_audiocourses: haha, better to get stranded at home than work right
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I am missing Montana
Me bisto: Apparently we have snow coming to warm spping-like london
Me bisto: spring-like rather
Me bisto: Very odd.
David Selonke: ya unfortionatly when i went to work it was perfectly clear and soon as i arived about 15 min later it started hard
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Been drinking there Chris lol
ben_audiocourses: yeah we're meant to be having some kind of weird cold snap today
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: It is cold here today but is suppose to start warmiong up again.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: warming
Me bisto: I was busy listening to some mp3 recordings of a live stream... slight distraction.
ben_audiocourses: was it gurgling j/k
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Well, my fingers move faster than my brain sometimes. lol
Me bisto: Wow, you have fast fingers Dan
Me bisto:
DANIEL WORKMAN SR:
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: No just slow brain.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Too many hours this week and too much driving.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Can't hardly keep my eyes open today.
Me bisto: Let me introduce jaxtec.
Me bisto: From Detroit, he is observing tonight, has a keen interest in sound. Rumour has it he was busy recording live shoutcast streams last night.
Ken Boatman: Hi Jaxtec
jaxtec2000: hi all
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Hi
David Selonke: My grandma lives in detroit
David Selonke: lol
David Selonke: sry
Me bisto:
David Selonke: HI!
ben_audiocourses: hey jaxtec
Me bisto: Ok ben did you have some items to cover?
ben_audiocourses: well, theres a couple of things it'd be useful to go over
ben_audiocourses: just to see where we're all at, dan, i got your week 8 & 9 this morning
ben_audiocourses: ken, did you get my last critique of the amended mix
ben_audiocourses: with talk of the switches on the back of the speaker?
Ken Boatman: yes, ben, i did. I produced a new mix for you.... Mix 3
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yea, I had a couple that I couldn't seem to find anything on.
ben_audiocourses: david, where are you at with the questions for week 9?
David Selonke: lol they are in my email somwhere, let me find them
ben_audiocourses: ok
ben_audiocourses: ok i know that you (david) had a few probs with the week 8 and theres a couple that daniel didn't do so we can have a quick overview of that
ben_audiocourses: So, this question:
ben_audiocourses: What effect on depth does removing top end from an instrument have?
ben_audiocourses: let's open this up to the floor, any takers?
Me bisto: me!!
Me bisto: j/k
Me bisto: @)
ben_audiocourses: lol
Me bisto:
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Not everyone at once now
David Selonke: k just sent answers to ya ben
ben_audiocourses: ok david
ben_audiocourses: right so by depth we mean perceived closeness to the listener/position in the soundstage
Me bisto: Think about what ben said there.. depth.. in the mix (distance perception).
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: OK
Ken Boatman: removing top end would make the instrument seem further away
ben_audiocourses: well done that man!
ben_audiocourses:
David Selonke: question,
Ken Boatman: yay
ben_audiocourses: david?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Thats what I thought but wasn't sure if I was right.
David Selonke: the top end part...what do u mean by top end
ben_audiocourses: high frequencies
David Selonke: ok thats what i thought
ben_audiocourses: we refer to top as high frequencies/treble
Me bisto: Explain "end" ben.
David Selonke: ok, i assumed that
David Selonke: but wasnt sure
David Selonke: that makes since now
ben_audiocourses: yeah we have top end, bottom end and middle
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yes it does
ben_audiocourses: reason for this is that low frequencies travel further than high frequencies as a rule
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Kind a like me
Ken Boatman: rofl
ben_audiocourses: so if treble is lost we presume sound is further away
ben_audiocourses: haha#
David Selonke: kinda like the annoying teenagers driving around with thier subwoofers, u can hear them a mile away but just the bass
ben_audiocourses: exactly david
ben_audiocourses: or if you stand outside a club you hear the oomph of the bass
David Selonke: lol, wait im an annoying teenager!
David Selonke: lol
ben_audiocourses: haha
ben_audiocourses: can you have a teenager that isn't annoying?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Sometimes I can hear the bass on my surround sound out side the house but can't hear the rest of the sound from my tv
David Selonke: ya...but that would be a wierd teenager
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: NO
ben_audiocourses: ha
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I have a 31 year old son and a 26 year old daughter they still act like teenagers lol
David Selonke: lol..ya good times...
David Selonke: just dont wanna leave the teenager stage...
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Wish I could turn back my clock sometimes
Me bisto: I'm almost 40 and I crank my sub up sometimes
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I miss those 50's
ben_audiocourses: matron
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I am 53 and I like a lot of bass
David Selonke: lol my dad is the biggest kid i know...plays video games all the time and listens to loud music just like me
Me bisto: I am 87 really, and I have issue with no bass
DANIEL WORKMAN SR:
ben_audiocourses: haha
Me bisto: lol
David Selonke: lol
ben_audiocourses: ok, continuing on the theme of 'audio'
ben_audiocourses: How can the notes of a trumpet solo be made to be relatively equal in loudness?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: But when my daughter stays with us she likes bass on her rock and I like bass on my country so we step on each other and have fits
Ken Boatman: with proper compression
ben_audiocourses: yes, thats one way
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: That is one that stumped me
ben_audiocourses: compression is the most accepted method
David Selonke: compression is the only way i can think of
ncmcmahon: Also use EQ to adjust the volume of each note (frequency)?
David Selonke: that would take too long lol
ben_audiocourses: nancy, you could do that but it would create some audible artefacts as well as taking a while
ben_audiocourses: most 'natural' way would be to just ride the fader
ben_audiocourses: or draw in automation if we're talking digital
David Selonke: ooo
Ken Boatman: you'd have to be pretty familiar with the solo
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Come to think of it I use compression on my Pastors vocal. He talks low sometimes and really high or loud at others and I use to compression to equal out his vocals
ben_audiocourses: lol
David Selonke: i ran sound at church today lol
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: So did I
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: These classes are really starting to help make our sound mix at the church better.
ben_audiocourses: next time you're doing sound, slowly start rolling the treble off and if people have their eyes closed they'll think the pastor is moving away -
Ken Boatman: LOL
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I'll try that
David Selonke: lol
ben_audiocourses: thew wonders of psychoacoustics
ben_audiocourses: back to trumpets
ben_audiocourses: ....
David Selonke: sry
ben_audiocourses: haha
ben_audiocourses: you will get 2 slightly different outcomes from compression and fader riding/automation
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: and they are?
ben_audiocourses: well, compression doesn't affect the whole signal, only signal above threshold
ben_audiocourses: so you will hear (if you ears are attuned) the effects of compression
Ken Boatman: you may get "pumping" from the compression due to threshold setting and attack
ben_audiocourses: whereas with riding the faders you are just literally making a particular note quieter/louder
ben_audiocourses: that is right ken
ben_audiocourses: if i'm working on a track with this problem
ben_audiocourses: where maybe the performer is moving around the mic or similiar
Ken Boatman: where as automation (if done quickly enuff) would produce diff results
ben_audiocourses: i tend to use a mixture of both methods
ben_audiocourses: of course, you can draw the automation in your DAW
ben_audiocourses: or cut up the audio clip into events/parts etc and change the volume envelope on each note
ben_audiocourses: I actually use the 'envelope' method rather than true automation
ben_audiocourses: bit easier in my DAW
ben_audiocourses: but obviously this varies from platform to platform
ben_audiocourses: envelope method is very useful though
ben_audiocourses: do you guys have envelope facilities in your chosen DAWs?
Ken Boatman: yeah
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yep
ben_audiocourses: you should get into using them, can be much more natural than compression
ben_audiocourses: although you may have to be careful if there is audible background noise etc
ben_audiocourses: i use it when i'm working all the time, especially when mixing vocals for jingles/audio idents
ben_audiocourses: quite often chop up the name of the station at the end and push up the envelopes for station name/freq
ben_audiocourses: if i can just jmp forward to week 9 a moment - dan & david, you both stumbled with this question
ben_audiocourses: How would a cross-over be connected in a live set up?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yep
David Selonke: yep
David Selonke: lol
ben_audiocourses: ok, are you both comfortable with the purpose/function of a crossover?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yea
David Selonke: not really
ben_audiocourses: ok we'll just quickly clear this up
ben_audiocourses: if you go to see a live gig or show, you'll see there are different kinds of speakers
ben_audiocourses: some handle low frequencies (bass)
ben_audiocourses: and others will handle mid/treble
ben_audiocourses: for these to work most efficiently, it is best to send each speaker only the frequencies it should reproduce
ben_audiocourses: so you don't send high frequencies to a bass bin for instance
ben_audiocourses: or low frequencies to a tweeter
ben_audiocourses: a crossover simply seperates the audio into 'bands' which are then fed to the appropriate speaker
ben_audiocourses: there are a few different ways crossovers can be connected depending on make/system etc
ben_audiocourses: however the most common method is to run the output of the desk into the crossover unit
ben_audiocourses: the crossover unit then splits the signals into the bands
ben_audiocourses: and then the signals are sent to power amps which are then connected to appropriate loudspeakers
ben_audiocourses: so you are splitting the signal pre-amplification
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: That should have been simple to answer now that I think it through
ben_audiocourses: you do sometimes get passive crossovers
David Selonke: ok, so crossover is an actual device?, i was thinking wireing...
ben_audiocourses: david - yes a crossover unit is a device
David Selonke: ok
ben_audiocourses: you will sometimes see passive crossovers built into speakers
ben_audiocourses: in this case the signal goes from desk to amp to speaker
ben_audiocourses: when it reaches the speaker it is split and the speaker will have an output which connects to the next speaker
ben_audiocourses: this is more common in lower end systems
ncmcmahon: home stereo speakers have passive crossover in the speakers, right?
ben_audiocourses: yes, the signal will be internally split between the main driver(s) and the tweeter
David Selonke: studio monitors?
ben_audiocourses: the same
David Selonke: thought so
ben_audiocourses: with live sound the difference is that you have physically different speakers/cabinets
David Selonke: surround sound?
ben_audiocourses: for each frequency
ben_audiocourses: there will be a crossover in each speaker if they have more than 1 actual cone (i.e. driver or tweeter)
ben_audiocourses: the sub will also only be fed low freq signal
ben_audiocourses: the sub will often have a crossover freq control
David Selonke: ok, ic
ben_audiocourses: you would 'tune' the freq of the sub to the lower limits of your normal speakers
ben_audiocourses: so if your speakers start to rolloff around 70-80Hz, then the sub could run from 20Hz-80Hz
ben_audiocourses: etc
ben_audiocourses: maybe this would be a good time to have a listen to kens latest mix - is mix 3 on the FTP ken?
ben_audiocourses: have we lost you ken?
Ken Boatman: yes, my other machine signed me off.
ben_audiocourses: is mix 3 on the FTP?
Ken Boatman: yes - let me get url
ben_audiocourses: ok
Ken Boatman: http://www.kenboatman.com/uploads/AudioCourses/Already%20Gone%20-%20Ken%20Mix%203.mp3
ben_audiocourses: ok, lets all have a listen to this mix
ben_audiocourses: regarding the critique for mix 2, was there any kind of HF excitation on the drums/track or was it just treble boost?
Ken Boatman: yes, i had a linear phase EQ on the master bus
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: For some reason I can't access it
ben_audiocourses: might be gaps in the URL?
ben_audiocourses: you tried copying and pasting into address bar?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I'll try
Ken Boatman: ben - did the HF sound better?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: It goes straight to a download window and then I lose it
David Selonke: hmm, it worked for me
ben_audiocourses: yes there was as much edginess although i might just take a quick listen to mix 2 again now so i can calibrate the old ears
ben_audiocourses: yeah sounds better - it's come down 2-3dB by the sound of it, about 12kHz
ben_audiocourses: daniel, you have windows media player?
Ken Boatman: wow..... you're good
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yea
ben_audiocourses: in media player, go to File->Open URL
ben_audiocourses: paste in URL
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: OK
ben_audiocourses: is that what you did ken?
Ken Boatman: i did 2 things.... i cut 2 db on the higher freq on the linear phase eq
Ken Boatman: then I had the cymbals sent to a bus where I had a HPF and I cut a little off the higher freq there as well
ben_audiocourses: yes, it is not quite as 'brash' in the top end as mix 2 - certainly less fatiguing on the ears
ben_audiocourses: what did you guys think of the mix?
Ken Boatman: goos - improvement
Ken Boatman: good
ben_audiocourses: oh its good ken, the difference between this and mix 1 is quite large
ben_audiocourses: at least in my opinion
Ken Boatman: to say the least
Ken Boatman: i butchered mix 1
ben_audiocourses: hehe, it wasn't that bad, you did say you spent less time on it than previous mixes though
Ken Boatman: uhh, no - more
David Selonke: its good, i like it
Ken Boatman: but i did not use the waves materials
ben_audiocourses: haha, you'll be pleased to leave the arena of pop-punk then
Ken Boatman: mix 2 and 3 i did reference the book
ben_audiocourses: did you get to check it out nancy?
ben_audiocourses: any luck daniel?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yea listening now
ben_audiocourses: cool
ncmcmahon: i don't know the URL. and I don't see it listed anywhere on my screen
ben_audiocourses: How would a cross-over be connected in a live set up?
Ken Boatman: http://www.kenboatman.com/uploads/AudioCourses/Already%20Gone%20-%20Ken%20Mix%203.mp3
ben_audiocourses: oops, sorry meant to post link not crossover question! lol
Ken Boatman: paste got ya
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I like it
ben_audiocourses: can anyone make any critique on the mix, i.e. specifics on the mix
ben_audiocourses: anything sound good/bad to you guys?
ben_audiocourses: overall balance, levels, panning, frequency content etc?
David Selonke: i think it sounds good
ben_audiocourses: these are the things you need to be listening to
David Selonke: ima listen to it again more closely
ben_audiocourses: did you see that link nancy?
ncmcmahon: nope
ben_audiocourses: hmmm
ncmcmahon: Is this an anti_MAC thing?
ben_audiocourses: hehe
ben_audiocourses: hxxp://www.kenboatman.com/uploads/AudioCourses/Already%20Gone%20-%20Ken%20Mix%203.mp3
ben_audiocourses: shit that didn;t work either
ben_audiocourses: haha
ncmcmahon: I see it
ben_audiocourses: oops, apologies for language there
ben_audiocourses: ah it did work
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: If I had the original track so I could hear the difference between the two it would help
Ken Boatman: http://www.kenboatman.com/uploads/AudioCourses/Already%20Gone%20-%20Ken%20Mix%201.mp3
ben_audiocourses: ah you still got mix 1 up? this wil be a good compare and contrast exercise
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Thanks
ben_audiocourses: for nancy, the second link is: hxxp://www.kenboatman.com/uploads/AudioCourses/Already%20Gone%20-%20Ken%20Mix%201.mp3
ncmcmahon: I feel so special!
ben_audiocourses: hehehe
ben_audiocourses: <shakes fist at apple computers>
ben_audiocourses:
David Selonke: balance is good
David Selonke: levels are excellent
Ken Boatman: actually mix 1 was not as good as it could have been
David Selonke: not sure about panning, i turned down one side it sounded similar to the other
David Selonke: overall its good
ben_audiocourses: i think with mix 3, from a couple of listens i'd be tempted to do a bit of surgical EQ to the chorus electric guitar, cut a bit more of a hole in the upper mids for the vocal to sit, or maybe even use a bit of automation to push up vocal levels in the chorus
ben_audiocourses: chorus sounds a tad congested in the 1-3kHz area IMO
Ken Boatman: there is a guitar which is playing an overdub which I think is guilty of this
ben_audiocourses: yeah, it sounds like the additional guitar pushes it over the edge in this freq range
Ken Boatman: that could probably be improved for the vocals to sit better
ben_audiocourses: verse is ok, so it suggests that the different tone that comes in for the chorus is maybe the guilty part
ben_audiocourses: you could use a touch of EQ, or even something like multiband compression to tame the upper mid critters
ben_audiocourses: can you guys hear the difference between mixes 1 & 3
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yea, I have been jumping between the two
ben_audiocourses: mix 3 has a lot more 'energy' for want of a better word IMO
ben_audiocourses: i still don't like the snare sound but that is out of your hands
ben_audiocourses: and completely subjective obviously
Ken Boatman: i could have used drumagog and completely abandoned their snare track
ben_audiocourses: (the snare in this track is a sample)
Ken Boatman: or BFD
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Stop using those 3 letter words I don't know
ben_audiocourses: i'm only being picky anyhow
ben_audiocourses: haha
ben_audiocourses: BFD is a great set of drum samples
Ken Boatman: actually Daniel, it is called BFD
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: OK
Ken Boatman: you can only giess what it stands for
ben_audiocourses: big f***** drums?
ben_audiocourses: no idea
Ken Boatman: could be
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Thats what I thought
ben_audiocourses: good work anyhow ken, real marked improvement throughout those mixes - well done
ben_audiocourses: !
ben_audiocourses: did you get it working nancy?
Ken Boatman: thanks Ben
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Can't wait to get started in the Mixing and Mastering class
ben_audiocourses: what you got coming up? is it the remix track?
ncmcmahon: yup. Like 3 much better. would like more drums.
Ken Boatman: YEAH more drums! right Chris!
ben_audiocourses: any drum(s) in particular or the entire kit!
ben_audiocourses: hehe
Me bisto: I wonder how an urban remix of that would sound..
Ken Boatman: hahaha
Me bisto: William Orbit style
ben_audiocourses: when working with a song, the relationship between snare and vocal is massively understated in my opinion (IMO for daniel)
ncmcmahon: Overall sounded kind of weak. But that's proably how they were meant to be. I like metal, so I probably shouldn't try produce any pop songs! I'd ruin them
ben_audiocourses: speaking of drums and mixing - any of you guys got the album 'Trouble' by Ray LaMontagne
Me bisto: yup
DANIEL WORKMAN SR:
ben_audiocourses: check out some of the mix decisions on that album, absolutely blinding
ben_audiocourses: for instance title track - drums in left speaker only
ben_audiocourses: bass in right speaker only
ben_audiocourses: kinda like the old beatles records
Me bisto: So refreshing
ben_audiocourses: they pull it off really well - it is very hard to pull of that kind of mix
ben_audiocourses: absolutely love the kick drum sound on the title track
ben_audiocourses: it is glynn johns son i think mixing/producing/engineering
Me bisto: What I like about it is this.. they treat every sound as a complete individual.
ben_audiocourses: yup
ben_audiocourses: glynn johns invented/pioneered this drum recording method also - http://www.danalexanderaudio.com/glynjohns.htm
ben_audiocourses: first time you see it setup you think WTF? (i won't spell that one out daniel!)
jaxtec2000 has left the conference.
ben_audiocourses: but it turns in some great drum sounds
DANIEL WORKMAN SR:
Me bisto: Laugh Out Loud
Me bisto:
ben_audiocourses: haha
ben_audiocourses: i think all the eagles drums were recorded with that setup
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I was only wondering about the BFD one.
ben_audiocourses:
ben_audiocourses: hehe
DANIEL WORKMAN SR:
ben_audiocourses: if you guys get a chance have a listen to some of those LaMontagne mixes
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Will do
ben_audiocourses: on the subject of songs
ben_audiocourses: i noticed an absolute CLANGER of a bum note in Son Of A Preacher Man recently
ben_audiocourses: a real les dawson moment (english reference)
Me bisto: lol
ben_audiocourses: next time you hear the track listen to the bass guitar as the song enters the middle 8
ben_audiocourses: he is a semitone out which is possibly the worst interval you can be out by
ben_audiocourses: he recovers quite quickly though
ben_audiocourses: suprised it made it onto the finished track though
Me bisto: hehe those were banged out quickly in those days eh ben?
ben_audiocourses: absolutely
ben_audiocourses: one take - it's in the bag(!?)
ben_audiocourses: it's at 1:26s in the track if any of you are as anal as me
ncmcmahon: Probably saved a lot of dough. Maybe artists back then didn't file bankruptcy after a hit recored like some do now.
Me bisto: And the musicians were on a weekly wage.
ben_audiocourses: absolutely, and if the track is recorded live, then that take maybe was the best and they didn't want to play the song again and risk a more sterile take at the expense of technical perfection
Me bisto: Great DVD to watch is called "Standing In The Shadows of Mowtown"
ben_audiocourses: chris sent me a great documentary a while back which is well worth watching
ben_audiocourses: haha
ben_audiocourses: that's the one
ben_audiocourses: well worth hiring out/purchasing
ben_audiocourses: especially if you like motown
ben_audiocourses: but interesting even if you don't
Me bisto: http://www.audiocourses.com/amazon-buy-0881888826.html
Me bisto: oops
Me bisto: this one
Me bisto: http://www.audiocourses.com/amazon-buy-B00006JCGI.html
Me bisto: The first is a good book also, (for bass players) contains all those mowtown bass lines.
ben_audiocourses: wow, 10 bucks is a fiver!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: You can also get it on Netflix
ben_audiocourses: what is netflix?
ben_audiocourses: oh movie rental right?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: An online movie rental site. They actually send you a copy of the movie on dvd
ben_audiocourses: yeah well worth renting out that one
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I get three movies a week from them
ben_audiocourses: woah
ben_audiocourses: thats a lot of film watching!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I don't watch TV because I never have time so I get three 3 movies a week and watch them on saturday evening or sunday
ben_audiocourses: sounds cool"
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Only $17.99 a month
ben_audiocourses: amazon do a similiar thing over here
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: good way to get movies. Everytime I send one back I have another in just two days
ben_audiocourses: i'm tempted to see that film '300' - i don't really like that kind of film normally but i'm interested in the CGI and post production
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: What is it about
ben_audiocourses: they shot nearly the whole film against blue screens - i think all backgfrounds are CGI
ben_audiocourses: it is a film about the spartans fighting persians
ben_audiocourses: it is based (loosely) on a true story
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Oh
ben_audiocourses: but i think there is a slight fantasy twist
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Just found it on netflix
ben_audiocourses: the FX do seem pretty good
ben_audiocourses: the crux of it is that 300 greeks fight an army of 100,000 (roughly) persians to prevent them invading greece
ben_audiocourses: trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCwT0TF6fa4
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Don't spoil it now by telling me the end.
ben_audiocourses: hehe, i haven't seen it yet
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: It isn't out yet for rent according to netflix but I put it in my saved list for when it does come out.
ben_audiocourses: yeah i think it is only just out in cinema here so you've probably had it in theatres for a few weeks now i guess
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Getting close to that time
ben_audiocourses: oh yeah, well spotted!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: One wek left on this course.
ben_audiocourses: time has flown!
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Going to miss chatting with you
ben_audiocourses: you're always welcome back to join in
ben_audiocourses: and we'll see you when you get on the mixing and mastering course
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Would like that
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: I'll be there soon
ben_audiocourses:
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Need to take a couple week break
Me bisto: Nancy I sent you a message..
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Slow down a little.
ben_audiocourses: don't blame ya
Ken Boatman: dont slow down too much
ben_audiocourses: hehe
ben_audiocourses: ok guys, thats it for this week - everyone ok for next week?
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: You guys take care and have a great week. I probably won't just my nature to keep going
David Selonke: yep
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Yep
Ken Boatman: cya nextw eek
ben_audiocourses: see you next week everyone - have a good week all
Ken Boatman has left the conference.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR: Bye
David Selonke: cya
ben_audiocourses: bye
David Selonke has left the conference.
DANIEL WORKMAN SR has left the conference.
ncmcmahon: by all
ben_audiocourses: bye!
Me bisto: bye bye
Me bisto has left the conference.
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