charliec
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hello, i am just curious. i use an echo layla sound card for capture and sonar as my software. it seems to me that i dont need any better software than sonar, like protools for instance. i mean i can get the sound into my computer very clear and crisp with very minimal noise from mics/sound card. and sonar has equalizers, effects and compressors. i dont know maybe this is an ignorant question, i know people use protools for a reason because its a great program, but what does it have that is going to up the quality of my recordings that i dont already have. i figure it starts with the music quality first off, a good song is a good song only made better by quality instruments then quality microphones. you got to be able to get it into the computer without converting down to 1/8th inch mini jack (which i got). but after its in the computer how much does the software make it sound better?? i have a home studio of very decent quality, not professional, but could definetely record a great demo in it. i also have samplitude 6.0 on my computer but i've never used it only because i am more familiar with sonar and all my files are saved as .cwp. is it the mastering and mixing abilities maybe?? thank you much for any replies and info.
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Mon Mar 15, 2004 5:47 pm |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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This is far too short and answer, and I do apologise but I can't help it.
Nope, you dont.
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hobbesblb
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There are tons of quality plug-ins for sonar and protools and all the others (although definately more for protools at the moment). WHy? Protools just happens to have been around longer. The primary reason for people using protools in pro-studios has to do with hardware acceleration. Protools have accelerator cards for audio that allow tyh cards, not your computer to do the major calculations in the audio. What does that mean? It means that one may be able to record, mix, and manipulate more tracks simultaneously, and that you can run more audio effects simultaneously.
As for audio quality, I would say that you may want to invest in quality plug-ins for Sonar, at least the Sonar XL package as the compressors, eq's and multi-effects (reverb, chorus, etc) are definately better sounding. You can export your Sonar projects in the OMF format, which allows other audio programs to edit your projects, a lot of things don't carry over, like your automation, effects settings, etc, but if you want those you can always bounce down to track.
How that is a good answer to a good question. Like anything else, everyone has an opinion, usually a very strong one at that, but you have to make a choice based on what is best for you and your needs, so ask questions, read a lot, and try out demos (you can download a protools LT for free off of their website). And when you do get further along, perhaps buy some high quality plug-ins for your software. If you don't have money for it yet, learn to get everything you can possibly get out of what you have. You may be surprised how much you can do with very little, and learning on the "simple" or "cheap" toys will allow you to get so much more out of the higher quality equipment, and plug-ins.
People who mix for big name bands like War, (which I teched for this weekend), will never learn how to get the most out of a mix, eq, and effects, because they sound good to begin with. But when you have to fight with a no name band with no talens, and poor acoustics, and poor equipment you learn a lot about how to get the most out of a vocal, an instrument, and the equipment, and when you do get behind a Midas console, or work with a great band, then you will be able to do remarkable things.
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wailingalleycat
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Youve got to ask yourself if theres a band with no talent, naf equipment and pretty much naf everything.
What the hell are they doing there.
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hobbesblb
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Have you never met a talentless band? I have worked with plenty. There is a lot of politics in the world of music (at least in my corner of the globe), and people sometimes get shows just because they know someone (say an club owner or a member of an actual band-I have worked under both of these scenarios), but they have a serious lack of talent. The point is that you should not spend all of your time trying to get the best bands and the best gear because in reality, you will never develop as an engineer. All of the crap we go through is what builds us up as engineers. A good engineer knows how to work in a less than ideal situation. A bad engineer gets his ego all jerked out of wack and says things like, "I can't work in these kinds of conditions, I need to concentrate." Yeah, that is a real quote from someone I worked with. He may have been talented, but you have to know how to roll with the punches.
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Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:25 am |
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charliec
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thaks alot guys those are some great answers from what sounds like some down to earth people.
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Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:54 pm |
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GQSmoove
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CharlieC,
Not to worry. You will do just fine with Sonar. All these programs have there own way of doing things. It's all about how you use your equipment. As I have read many times over you can have a 250,000 console and a 4 track and the 4 track would win because the person behind the equipment knows its ins and outs. KNow your equipment and become one with it and you will produce nothing but hits. |
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Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:28 am |
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cherrise111
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Thanks for all the info... im really familiar with cakewalk and was wondering about getting protools with the digi 002... its too expensive for me right now.. Im glad to know its all in the ear... why do people keep telling me I need that digi design 002?? That thing costs $2500 bucks! |
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Thu Apr 08, 2004 12:03 am |
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GQSmoove
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Like with everything. Know Cakewalk like the back of your hand and trust your ears. People get caught up in the hype and sometimes don't know the flava. LOL |
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