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AUdIoCoUrSeS



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Week 5 Practical  Reply with quote  

NO questions this week.

Fun Time!

Practical Assignment

24 track mixdown...

You will find 24 tracks of audio here: http://www.audiocourses.com/part3/week5

Download them and unzip them to a folder.

All files are equal in length and of the same format, if you place each one up to the left locator in your software each one will be synchronised with their partners.

The tracks represent the individual tracks of a 24 track recording taken from a recording studio. These are the raw files with zero editing and processing.

The objective is to create a mix that is suitable for releasing.

However, let's leave the mastering for the next week. This week I am only concerned with how you mix the tracks and process them.

There is 330MB here, so go get a coffee while they download.



Post your questions in this thread... I'm hoping this will create a lot of dialogue.

As there are so many skills and technique that this will highlight for discussion.

Have fun!


P.S. Anyone without broadband go for zip 11 (rhodes patch) and zip 17 (vocals) you could then use your own software and resources to create a mix (drum loops etc).
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Post Mon Apr 05, 2004 4:21 pm
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hey chris,
i couldn't make the workshop yesterday cause my net was down Sad
anywayz, i've downloaded the files and files 6, 15, 18 and 24 are blank....why? Question

- aman
Post Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:34 pm
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AUdIoCoUrSeS



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No worries about missing the workshop, just have a read, it was a relaxed social one anyway.

As far as the files are concerned, well done, you have started the first discussion.

Those tracks were left blank, the original source was 24 track analogue tape, why might I have left blank tracks?

What instruments are either side?

In fact, it might be a good idea for us to create a track list here of what we think each track is.

For coding into digital we simply connected every socket up to a DAW and recorded the output.

Having what seems a dis-organised heap of sounds to work with is actually fairly common.

Let's organise them.
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Post Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:57 pm
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Here's what I think each track is...

01 - drums
02 - hats and snare
03 - drums
04 - drums
05 - kicks
06 - blank
07 - hats
08 - overhead
09 - overhead
10 - bass
11 - keys
12 - vocals (male)
13 - conga drums (mostly slaps)
14 - trumpet or sax and vocals (male)
15 - blank
16 - bongo drums
17 - vocals (female)
18 - blank
19 - strings
20 - keys
21 - keys
22 - strings
23 - electric guitar
24 - blank

...I can't really see the reason for the blank tracks but if anyone got any suggestions or corrections to the instruments, feel free!!!
- Aman
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Think about it in the analogue world... both on the desk and tape.

When there are bass instruments, such as a kick for example, there is a situation where there can be some magnetic bleed (electrical in a desk) from one adjacent track to another.

As the hi-hats were coming next the decision would have been (on tape) to give a little distance. The same can be said for the vocals and other blank areas with the exception of 24 which was reserved for time code.

It's also common practise to have "groups" of similar frequency content in geographically close tape tracks.

There are no rules, it's merely a method you can try to think about.

Make sense?
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Post Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:02 am
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yeah i guess it makes sense but i'm not that familiar with the analogue multitracking so i'm open to any info... 8O
Post Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:25 am
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NO worries... Smile

So how's it going any moves forward?

Anyone?

I'm really looking forward to hearing how the tune is shaping up.
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I've started to work on it, i've put all the tracks of audio into my sequencer and grouped like tracks. I've silenced all the silent parts on the drum tracks and increased the gain on them all.

I plan to work on drums, then bass, vocals, then work the other parts on top.

Can you recommend the order in which i apply effects, limiting follows compression, but where does eq fit in?

Reverb will go on the sends.

I will report again tomorrow hopefully after i have sorted those drums out.


griff505.
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Griff sounds good.

I started with the vocals, I'm a sucker for making them the best theyc an be and getting things to "fit" around them.

There is no correct order with regards to compression and eq, do you want to e.q. the compressed sound, or compress the e.q'd sound you know? I would try them both and see how you like the sound....

This is a great practical as the source tracks are realy difficult to work with and present many problems. Those hums and buzz on the drum tracks... hmmm...

I'll check again on Friday eve for progress but Ben will hopefulyl pop in here and keep you all on task in my absense, keep the dialogue coming!

Chris
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