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Session Start: Sun May 16 17:07:38 2004
Session Ident: #audiocourses
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<iNSTiNCTDK> hey chris... how u doin?
<Audiocourses> hey hiya
<Audiocourses> doing good thanks and u?
<iNSTiNCTDK> been stressin bout the exam location stuff had to call around alot..everybody was givin me the run around and then they all like 'sorry but we dont have the resources bla bla..' but im hopin i can take it at CBS, the lady seemed nice gonna call her again tomorrow
<iNSTiNCTDK> sorry i couldnt get a confirmation for last wednesday
<Audiocourses> ok..  you know the embassy will do it for sure... if that is close to you..
<iNSTiNCTDK> which embassy? the british?
<Audiocourses> yes
<iNSTiNCTDK> even if i'm not a british citizen?
<Audiocourses> yes
<Audiocourses> It's a British exam
<Audiocourses> should be fine
<iNSTiNCTDK> oh i see...cool...i'll give CBS a call tomorrow, see how that goes...if it doesnt go then ill go to the embassy
<Audiocourses> ok
<Audiocourses> don;t stress though ;)
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<iNSTiNCTDK> ill try not to
<griff505> hi
<Audiocourses> hi griff
<iNSTiNCTDK> sup griff
<griff505> its a warm day
<Audiocourses> certainly is here
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<griff505> hey chris, i have to submit a portfolio (CD) for my MA application, how many track do you think i shoudl put on a cd?
<Audiocourses> 3 ish
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<Audiocourses> although if you have many put them all on
<griff505> but 3-4 should be acceptiable?
<Audiocourses> I would have thought so....
<griff505> thanks, that put my nerves to rest  ;)
<Audiocourses> But I must admit if there are more available it would be easier for someone to skip the tracks and search for more..
<griff505> where are you today chris?
<griff505> probably best to pick my best 4-5 and put them on
<Audiocourses> Sure, I am in Milan.
<griff505> must be hot there
<Audiocourses> It's 26 degrees inside.. and my balcony temp is reading 41..
<Audiocourses> but that's a sun trap
<iNSTiNCTDK> damn
<Duncan_8118> Enjoyed the sun in the UK this weekend - been playing on my kids bouncy castle and water slide all day - great fun
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<Audiocourses> Sounds like a heap of fun..
<Audiocourses> hi ben
<Duncan_8118> Anyone waqtch the eurovision song contest - what a load of B******S!!!
<ben_m> hi everyone
<iNSTiNCTDK> the one where Ukraine won?
<griff505> i saw a few seconds of it
<Duncan_8118> That would be enough griff
<griff505> yeah it was
<griff505> just to hear wogan for a few seconds satisfied me
<Duncan_8118> lol
<Audiocourses> hehe I like getting him on the internet radio
<Audiocourses> He is always full of humerous poetry
<Duncan_8118> Yeah he was quite amusing last night
<Duncan_8118> Just basically took the piss!!!!
<griff505> thats what i was told
* Audiocourses changes topic to 'Topics'
<Audiocourses> Things went well this week with the questions guys.
<Audiocourses> Congratulations...
<Audiocourses> The big ones are done.
<iNSTiNCTDK> cool...just posted mine earlier today
<Audiocourses> Yes I checked them out
<Audiocourses> Tough old RT topc last week..
<Audiocourses> How were the MT set Ben?
<Duncan_8118> Couldn't get my head round working out the delay times
<Duncan_8118> Think my brain has packed up this week
<ben_m> pretty good on the whole
<Duncan_8118> The controlling lights with midi was interesting though - didn't know you could do that
<iNSTiNCTDK> hey ben, the second last question...was it supposed to say MSC instead of MTC?
<ben_m> yeah - strictly speaking you could control a lot of things with MIDI - its all binary at the end of the day
<ben_m> hold on instinct, let me get the page
<Duncan_8118> Could I control my kids with it?!!!!
<Audiocourses> hehe
* Audiocourses changes topic to 'Mock Exams'
<Audiocourses> how lonf since you guys did exams?
<Audiocourses> how long..
<iNSTiNCTDK> 2001 :)
<griff505> less than a year
<Duncan_8118> About 3 years ago
<Audiocourses> wel then not so bad huh..
<Audiocourses> The Mock Exams represent a good opportunity for you to put yourself into exam conditions.
<Duncan_8118> I will get my wife to invigilate!
<Audiocourses> They are not graded, and do not constitute towards any of your grade.
<Audiocourses> They are purely a tool for learning and preparation.
<ben_m> instinct - sorry for the delay, no, it is MTC
<ben_m> sorry MSC
<ben_m> !
<ben_m> did it again
<Duncan_8118> I would think thay good practice to see which areas we need to read up on
<Audiocourses> Essentially we want you to put yourself under pressure.
<iNSTiNCTDK> haha
<iNSTiNCTDK> ok, then i answered it right
<Audiocourses> Yes Duncan..
<Audiocourses> So now I'll just chat about the format for a bit.
<iNSTiNCTDK> ok
<Audiocourses> bascialyl the mock exams will be indentical to the real exams.
<Audiocourses> That is to say in terms of format.
<Audiocourses> And duration
<Audiocourses> When you download the exams I would suggest you try to avoid looking at the quesitons.
<Audiocourses> We would prefer you to set aside two time slots during this coming week.
<Audiocourses> One time slot per exam
<Audiocourses> Each slot is to be three hours (max)
<Audiocourses> So for example you may want to consider two consecutive days..
<Audiocourses> say tuesday and wednesday.
<Audiocourses> In adition it is important you really do create 'exam conditions'
<Audiocourses> Exam conditions typically means silence and no resources at your fingertips
<Audiocourses> If you think finding a three hour slot of silence would be difficut at home you may want to consider going to the library
<Audiocourses> or some other such place..
<Audiocourses> Ideally we are wanting you to be in 'the zone' (sorry Britney)
<Audiocourses> In the zone is complete focus and conentration... you have the question sheet, your answering paper, pencils and pens..and your brain.
<Audiocourses> Can any one think why in addition to Duncan why these mocks are a good thing..?
<iNSTiNCTDK> so u get a sense of how long it might take u to answer each question and set ur pace accordingly
<iNSTiNCTDK> for the real exams
<Audiocourses> yes good instinct
<Audiocourses> Regarding the format now..
<Duncan_8118> Get us used to being in 'exam conditions'
<Audiocourses> Each question paper will have a total of 15 questions.
<Audiocourses> So working that out you are likely to get a couple of questions from each week of topics we have covered.
<Audiocourses> Doesn't sound to bad huh?
<griff505> hmm
<Duncan_8118> Should we give brief answers that are to the point or 'a little bit extra' to show off our knowledge
<Audiocourses> I think Ben might have some views on this one Dunc..
<Audiocourses> would you ben?
<Duncan_8118> Assuming we have some knowledge of course
<ben_m> answering questions is an artform in itself
<ben_m> you need to concisely answer the question
<ben_m> covering all bases suggested in the question
<ben_m> BUT
<ben_m> do not waffle as this will not gain you extra marks!
<Duncan_8118> Ok cool
<ben_m> The key is to interpret the question in a manner that allows you to write an answer that is structured to gain maximum marls
<ben_m> marks
<Audiocourses> Time planning is also highly important.. right?
<ben_m> this is vital
<ben_m> obviously a sensible way to approach this is to look at overall marks available
<ben_m> and then look at the 'weighting' of each question
<ben_m> and calculate how long each question should take
<ben_m> Also, read the exam paper at LEAST once before you start writing
<ben_m> make notes of which questions you are 100% with
<griff505> makes sense
<ben_m> it is often worth doing your '100%'ers first
<ben_m> leaving time to spend on ones you are unsure about
<ben_m> Also, leave time at the end of the exam to read and re-read your answers, check for errors etc
<griff505> what is the pass mark / grade boundaries?
<ben_m> often a few extra points can be picked up this way
<Duncan_8118> What % is the pass rate and are there different rades depending on the overall marks?
<Duncan_8118> Sorry griff - you are one step ahead of me!
<Audiocourses> Yes
<Audiocourses> The exam pass mark fluctuates yearly and bi-yearly
<Audiocourses> The reason for this is that the are looked at globally
<Audiocourses> the 'results' should be in that above sentance
<griff505> when do we get the marks back?
<Audiocourses> However, you can think of a pass being around the figure of 45%
<Duncan_8118> That should be more than achievable I would think
<Audiocourses> Above 55% would warrant a Merit and above 70% would achieve Distinction
<Audiocourses> I know we are all aiming high and for distinctions...
<Duncan_8118> Definitely
<Audiocourses> We usually have a 'peppering' of distincions each round.
<Audiocourses> And nobody has failed to date through Audiocourses.com
<Audiocourses> though many have in traditional institutions....
<Audiocourses> Not that I'm laying any pressure on you :)
<iNSTiNCTDK> no pressure now...
<Audiocourses> lol
<Audiocourses> Does that answer the grading questions?
<griff505> yes
<Duncan_8118> Yep
<iNSTiNCTDK> yes
<Audiocourses> In terms of a turn around for marked exams, City & Guilds do take their time..
<Audiocourses> So I ask for your patience on that one..
<Audiocourses> Don't be concerned if we are well into September before you hear how you did.
<iNSTiNCTDK> and do we have to ask for the certificates ourselves or are they sent automatically?
<Audiocourses> That would be typial.
<Audiocourses> The certificates are sent automatically.
<Audiocourses> They are good ones :)
<Audiocourses> http://www.audiocourses.com/sections-viewarticle-24.html
<Audiocourses> Any questions at this point?
<iNSTiNCTDK> nice
<griff505> nope
<Duncan_8118> Chris, have you got the address yet for the place in Gloucester as I would like to sort out some accommodation nearby as soon as I can.
<Audiocourses> Ah yes one sec Duncan let me dig that out for you.
<Duncan_8118> Nice certificate by the way!!!
<Audiocourses> Sound Engineering International
<Audiocourses> City & Guilds of London Institute Examination Centre
<Audiocourses> 9 Green Lane, Hucclecote, Gloucester, Gloucestershire GL3 3QT
<Audiocourses> Tel: No: 01452 610039
<Audiocourses> And the contact name is John Mizzi
<Duncan_8118> Thanks
<griff505> i wonder if that is in the centre of glouster or way out
<Duncan_8118> Do I need to contact them before or just up on the day?
<Duncan_8118> sorry turn up on the day
<Audiocourses> John Mizzi will contact you about this in the week anyway I would think.
<Duncan_8118> Ok cool
<Audiocourses> http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=387354&y=217200&z=0&sv=GL33QT&st=2&pc=GL3+3QT&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf
<Audiocourses> That is a search based on the postcode.
<griff505> thanks
<griff505> near the motorway i see
<Audiocourses> Welcome.
<Audiocourses> seems very close yes
<Duncan_8118> I can feel a Travel Inn coming on!
<Audiocourses> Ah yes.... most of those places have internet access now also :)
<Audiocourses> You can rant a bit after the first day with each other. ;)
<Duncan_8118> Or just go to the pub
<Audiocourses> Keep that head clear!
<Audiocourses> Ok so reagrding Mocks..
<Audiocourses> everything clear?
<Duncan_8118> Yes
<griff505> yeah
<iNSTiNCTDK> yeah
<Audiocourses> Certainly in your interest to use them effectively.
<Audiocourses> OK good..
* Audiocourses changes topic to 'Quiz Time'
<Audiocourses> Fingers on the buzzers..
<Audiocourses> the character # will represent a buzz..
<ben_m> lol
<Audiocourses> lol
<Audiocourses> lets test our buzzers
<Duncan_8118> #
<iNSTiNCTDK> £
<iNSTiNCTDK> oh shit
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<Audiocourses> hehe
<griff505> #
<Audiocourses> lol
<ben_m> instinct!
<Audiocourses> lmao
<ben_m> disqualified
<iNSTiNCTDK> mine was malfunctioning
<iNSTiNCTDK> got it under control now
<Audiocourses> buzzer test one more time..
<Duncan_8118> #
<griff505> #
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<Audiocourses> lol beautiful
<Audiocourses> Here we go..
<Audiocourses> A computer stops working and the mouse pointer will not move. If everything is connected correctly and appears undamaged what should be the first course of action to rectify the problem? (2 marks)
<Duncan_8118> #
<griff505> #
<Duncan_8118> Switch off and re-boot
<griff505> unconnect then reconnect the mouse
<Audiocourses> I think Duncan pipped that one.
<iNSTiNCTDK> ##
<Audiocourses> lol
<iNSTiNCTDK> good work dunc...was gonna say the same
<iNSTiNCTDK> :)
<Duncan_8118> lol
<Audiocourses> Next one...
<Audiocourses> fingers are the ready.
<Audiocourses> A producer has asked you to set up a natural echo chamber. What should you do? (2 marks)
<iNSTiNCTDK> ?
<Audiocourses> hmm thats a pass from instinct
<Duncan_8118> No idea
<Audiocourses> griff?
<griff505> find a big room with losts of reflective surfaces?
<iNSTiNCTDK> didnt pass...my finger slipped...#
<Audiocourses> Good start.... yes :)
<griff505> and set up mics around the room?
<Audiocourses> Really instinck? or you playing us? lol
<iNSTiNCTDK> two microphones and a loudspeaker
<Audiocourses> ahh here we go yes..
<Audiocourses> Why two ins?
<Audiocourses> It can be correct but why?
<iNSTiNCTDK> to capture predelay and the verb too?
<griff505> to mic the instrument / voice and the signal through a speaker
<griff505> which will be slightly delayed?
<iNSTiNCTDK> or just to plain ol' get the echo in stereo
<Audiocourses> Yes good ins
<griff505> so why are there two mics?
<Audiocourses> Griff for stereo.
<griff505> i see
<Audiocourses> And wohat would have to be done on the desk with those two mics?
<griff505> so would that speaker techique be considered a 'natural echo chamber'?
<Audiocourses> Yes that's basically it
<iNSTiNCTDK> the signal from the two mics has to be mixed in with the dry signal
<ben_m> griff - the natural part implies you aren't using artificial means i.e. digital delay
<griff505> where are the two mics places?
<griff505> placed
<Audiocourses> yes but you'd need to do something with the mic channels like that in order to 'hear' the stereo, or the timing differences if you like.
<griff505> pan one left and one right
<Audiocourses> exactly
<ben_m> quick interjection
<Audiocourses> is it clear?
<ben_m> often you'd also want to check phase relationship - i.e. flip phase on desk to see if there are phase issues
<Audiocourses> Is this phase concept clear guys?
<griff505> yes
<Duncan_8118> Yep
<Audiocourses> good..another RT one.. then some MT
<Audiocourses> buzzers ready
<iNSTiNCTDK> yes
<Audiocourses> You have been given a recording of speech which is of good quality and is very dry, with no noticeable    ambience. You have been asked to make it sound as though the person is speaking in a telephone box, of the type with glass side panels and a door. What would you do? (6 marks)
<Audiocourses> there are lots of ways of answerg this....  though once vital ingredient is needed.
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<Audiocourses> ins is in there
<Audiocourses> go for it ins
<griff505> #
<iNSTiNCTDK> could get an actual phonebooth of a simulation with glass pannels and then mic it up with the natural echo method
<ben_m> hesitation?
<griff505> cut the bass and treble and alter the mids to get the desired effect
<Audiocourses> good, you see both of those answers are possible.. and combined they would work also.
<Audiocourses> natually a questions such as this is looking for you to understand the very low bandwidth of the phone system...along with use of compression and possibly gates (many do)
<Audiocourses> However...
<Audiocourses> I would think ins was on the money for his interpretation of the question.
<Audiocourses> My initial answer would be a good exmaple of mis-reading the question..
<Audiocourses> I answered as if the sound wanted was something we are all used to.. that down the phone line sound..
<griff505> oh yeah, because it is just the voice of someone in the phone box, not the phonew recption
<Audiocourses> But IND immediately picked up its the sound IN the box..
<Audiocourses> yes griff..
<Audiocourses> This is where we must be very careful in understanding the what is being asked of us.
<ben_m> read the question at least twice every time!
<Audiocourses> Of course the 'glass panels' sound is the vital thing here.
<Audiocourses> So one could do that with panes of glass... of use the more modern approach of acoustic modelling software.
<ben_m> here a good answer would be a small room reverbset  with no/little predelay and a 'bright' rather than 'warm' using diffusion settings etc
<iNSTiNCTDK> got some names of good acoustic modelling software?
<griff505> what is predelay?
<ben_m> predelay is the delay between the dry sound
<ben_m> and the reverb sound
<ben_m> for instance in a warehouse you may clap your hands and the reverbed sound isn't instant
<griff505> i see, thanks
<Audiocourses> It's a bit like the time it takes for the voice to hit the glass.
<ben_m> it takes a while for the sound to hit the wall and travel back to you
<Audiocourses> lol
<Audiocourses> OK some MT questions now..
<ben_m> :)
<ben_m> ok, first off, get your windows calculators ready
<ben_m> got them loaded?
<iNSTiNCTDK> yep
<Duncan_8118> yep
<griff505> yes
<ben_m> ok
<ben_m> How would you calculate a 8th note delay for a song of 120bpm (6 marks)
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<ben_m> instinct
<Duncan_8118> Carol Vorderman explanations please!!!!
<iNSTiNCTDK> divide 60000ms by the bpm (120) to get the quarternote delay
<iNSTiNCTDK> =500
<iNSTiNCTDK> divide that by 2 to get 8th note
<Audiocourses> hmm thats a pass from instinct
<Duncan_8118> No idea
<Audiocourses> griff?
<griff505> find a big room with losts of reflective surfaces?
<iNSTiNCTDK> didnt pass...my finger slipped...#
<Audiocourses> Good start.... yes :)
<griff505> and set up mics around the room?
<Audiocourses> Really instinck? or you playing us? lol
<iNSTiNCTDK> two microphones and a loudspeaker
<Audiocourses> ahh here we go yes..
<Audiocourses> Why two ins?
<Audiocourses> It can be correct but why?
<iNSTiNCTDK> to capture predelay and the verb too?
<griff505> to mic the instrument / voice and the signal through a speaker
<griff505> which will be slightly delayed?
<iNSTiNCTDK> or just to plain ol' get the echo in stereo
<Audiocourses> Yes good ins
<griff505> so why are there two mics?
<Audiocourses> Griff for stereo.
<griff505> i see
<Audiocourses> And wohat would have to be done on the desk with those two mics?
<griff505> so would that speaker techique be considered a 'natural echo chamber'?
<Audiocourses> Yes that's basically it
<iNSTiNCTDK> the signal from the two mics has to be mixed in with the dry signal
<ben_m> griff - the natural part implies you aren't using artificial means i.e. digital delay
<griff505> where are the two mics places?
<griff505> placed
<Audiocourses> yes but you'd need to do something with the mic channels like that in order to 'hear' the stereo, or the timing differences if you like.
<griff505> pan one left and one right
<Audiocourses> exactly
<ben_m> quick interjection
<Audiocourses> is it clear?
<ben_m> often you'd also want to check phase relationship - i.e. flip phase on desk to see if there are phase issues
<Audiocourses> Is this phase concept clear guys?
<griff505> yes
<Duncan_8118> Yep
<Audiocourses> good..another RT one.. then some MT
<Audiocourses> buzzers ready
<iNSTiNCTDK> yes
<Audiocourses> You have been given a recording of speech which is of good quality and is very dry, with no noticeable    ambience. You have been asked to make it sound as though the person is speaking in a telephone box, of the type with glass side panels and a door. What would you do? (6 marks)
<Audiocourses> there are lots of ways of answerg this....  though once vital ingredient is needed.
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<Audiocourses> ins is in there
<Audiocourses> go for it ins
<griff505> #
<iNSTiNCTDK> could get an actual phonebooth of a simulation with glass pannels and then mic it up with the natural echo method
<ben_m> hesitation?
<griff505> cut the bass and treble and alter the mids to get the desired effect
<Audiocourses> good, you see both of those answers are possible.. and combined they would work also.
<Audiocourses> natually a questions such as this is looking for you to understand the very low bandwidth of the phone system...along with use of compression and possibly gates (many do)
<Audiocourses> However...
<Audiocourses> I would think ins was on the money for his interpretation of the question.
<Audiocourses> My initial answer would be a good exmaple of mis-reading the question..
<Audiocourses> I answered as if the sound wanted was something we are all used to.. that down the phone line sound..
<griff505> oh yeah, because it is just the voice of someone in the phone box, not the phonew recption
<Audiocourses> But IND immediately picked up its the sound IN the box..
<Audiocourses> yes griff..
<Audiocourses> This is where we must be very careful in understanding the what is being asked of us.
<ben_m> read the question at least twice every time!
<Audiocourses> Of course the 'glass panels' sound is the vital thing here.
<Audiocourses> So one could do that with panes of glass... of use the more modern approach of acoustic modelling software.
<ben_m> here a good answer would be a small room reverbset  with no/little predelay and a 'bright' rather than 'warm' using diffusion settings etc
<iNSTiNCTDK> got some names of good acoustic modelling software?
<griff505> what is predelay?
<ben_m> predelay is the delay between the dry sound
<ben_m> and the reverb sound
<ben_m> for instance in a warehouse you may clap your hands and the reverbed sound isn't instant
<griff505> i see, thanks
<Audiocourses> It's a bit like the time it takes for the voice to hit the glass.
<ben_m> it takes a while for the sound to hit the wall and travel back to you
<Audiocourses> lol
<Audiocourses> OK some MT questions now..
<ben_m> :)
<ben_m> ok, first off, get your windows calculators ready
<ben_m> got them loaded?
<iNSTiNCTDK> yep
<Duncan_8118> yep
<griff505> yes
<ben_m> ok
<ben_m> How would you calculate a 8th note delay for a song of 120bpm (6 marks)
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<ben_m> instinct
<Duncan_8118> Carol Vorderman explanations please!!!!
<iNSTiNCTDK> divide 60000ms by the bpm (120) to get the quarternote delay
<iNSTiNCTDK> =500
<iNSTiNCTDK> divide that by 2 to get 8th note
<iNSTiNCTDK> 500 divide by 2 = 250 ms :)
<ben_m> full marks to that man
<ben_m> duncan, you ok with this now?
<Duncan_8118> simple when you know how
<Duncan_8118> Don't know what my problem was!!
<ben_m> ok next one
<Duncan_8118> I will have a go at the questions I didn't do last week
<ben_m> no problems duncan
<ben_m> here we go...
<ben_m> When a note from a piano is sampled in order to imitate that instrument, the sample has to be looped so that the note can be sustained for any length of time until it completely decays. What problem is there in doing this? (7 Marks)
<griff505> the volume fluctuation in the looped section
<ben_m> griff - good but need a buzzer...
<griff505> #
<ben_m> ;)
<iNSTiNCTDK> oohhh u didnt buzz
<iNSTiNCTDK> tsk tsk
<griff505> the volume fluctuation in the looped section
<iNSTiNCTDK> haha
<ben_m> ok, griff you got the basics, but i can pass it over for a more detailed explanation (with buzzers this time)
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<ben_m> instinct
<ben_m> tick tock
<iNSTiNCTDK> finding a perfect loop can be difficult and the loop can sound unnatural when the note is help for long periods of time
<ben_m> ok, good as well, but again a bit more detail could be in the answer - last chance for someone to steal the points
<iNSTiNCTDK> and if there is a click in the loop it will ofcourse be repeated over and over when holding the key down and because noticable and annoying even
<ben_m> its a 7-pointer remember
<ben_m> hint: ADSR envelope - Griff was on the right lines
<ben_m> <tumbleweed blows across studio>
<ben_m> going
<ben_m> going
<ben_m> gone
<ben_m> ok, griff you would have got a few points for that
<Audiocourses> lol
<ben_m> but you need to explain in more detail to get all the points
<ben_m> a piano has what kind of ADSR characteristics?
<ben_m> ok, the hammer hits a string so strong attack
<Duncan_8118> quick attack, fairly slow decay and realease
<ben_m> good duncan
<iNSTiNCTDK> fast attack, slow decay, no or little sustain and a medium release
<ben_m> you always want to set your loop in the sustain portion of the sample, or in a pianos case the decay as sustain is only present when sustain pedal is pressed
<ben_m> theoretically at least
<ben_m> so as you're setting your loop in the decay section you will have problems
<ben_m> obviously the main characteristic of 'decay' is a decrease in volume
<ben_m> so your loop will start with a higher amplitude than it will have at the end
<ben_m> creating a 'ramping' effect
<ben_m> griff - you had the right answer
<ben_m> but in an exam situation you would need to go into more detail
<ben_m> if the question was a 1/2 pointer then you would've been ok
<ben_m> but for 7 marks you need the extra detail
<ben_m> is this question clear?
<iNSTiNCTDK> it is now
<griff505> yeah
<Duncan_8118> #
<Duncan_8118> yeah
<ben_m> duncan - was that a rogue buzzer?
<ben_m> is it faulty?
<Duncan_8118> yeah, going for extra points by saying yes
<ben_m> lol
<ben_m> bonus point to duncan there
<ben_m> ok next...
<ben_m> What is the difference between type 0 and type 1 MIDI sequence files?
<ben_m> (6 marks)
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<ben_m> instinct
<iNSTiNCTDK> a MIDI composition which has been sequenced out on 2 or more channels and saved as a MIDI 0 file will have all the channels saved to one track while MIDI type 1 files have the channels seperated
<ben_m> excellent
<iNSTiNCTDK> that probably isnt enough for 6 marks though :)
<ben_m> distinction is good here between channels and tracks
<ben_m> actually instinct, the 'model answer' is very similiar
<iNSTiNCTDK> cool
<ben_m> you all ok with this question, and the distinction between tracks and channels?
<Duncan_8118> Yep
<griff505> yeah
<ben_m> ok, one last question, bit of a beast and read the question thoroughly
<ben_m> Describe three common ways an LFO might be used in analogue synthesis. Include references to other components of analogue synthesisers. Do not use abbreviations in your answer.
<ben_m>      (6 marks)
<Duncan_8118> #
<iNSTiNCTDK> #
<ben_m> duncan - by a hairs width
<iNSTiNCTDK> 1) ) Vibrato: using the low frequency oscillator to modulate the voltage controlled oscillator carrying a sine or triangle wave causes the pitch to vary smoothly up and down or in other terms, wobble, producing a vibrato effect
<iNSTiNCTDK> damn
<Duncan_8118> !.To modulate the frequency of a voltage controlled oscillator
<iNSTiNCTDK> sorry then
<ben_m> hehe
<ben_m> one down, two to go
<Duncan_8118>  2. To modulate the level of the signal via the voltage controlled amplifier
<ben_m> one more for 'full house'
<Duncan_8118>  3. To modulate the frequency content of the signal via the voltage controlled filter
<ben_m> you've won the static caravan!
<Audiocourses> lol
<ben_m> are you all au fait with the terms used in this answer
<griff505> wow, if i knew we were playing for that....!!!!
<Duncan_8118> Bring it on!!!
<griff505> yeah
<ben_m> griff - dont worry, noone goes away empty handed
<iNSTiNCTDK> yeah..
<Duncan_8118> yeah
<ben_m> audiocourses chequebook and pen for the losers
<Audiocourses> lol
<Duncan_8118> More Wogan!!!
<iNSTiNCTDK> duncan, that caravan should have been mine!
<ben_m> lol
<Duncan_8118> I'll do a time share deal with you
<ben_m> oh oh, fight on
<griff505> les dawson?
<iNSTiNCTDK> deal...
<ben_m> lily savage
<ben_m> ;)
<Duncan_8118> Must be showing my age with the wogan reference
<iNSTiNCTDK> hey chris... i didnt find out the answer to the warble reduction question....
<Audiocourses> INs, it was answered.
<iNSTiNCTDK> which reduction system to use for warble noise?
<Audiocourses> One of your guys nailed that one
<Audiocourses> Not sure if it was griff or dunc now
<griff505> dolby a
<Duncan_8118> Wasn't me. must have been griff
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<griff505> dolby a
<Duncan_8118> As they said in Spinal Tap - sounds better in Dobly!
<Audiocourses> lol
<Duncan_8118> And turned up to 11
<ben_m> smell my glove
<Duncan_8118> lol
<griff505> its too raga
<Audiocourses> Lick My Love Pump
<ben_m> lol
<Audiocourses> Instinct : check this http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/1997_articles/may97/analysinganalogue.html
<Audiocourses> It's a bit an anorak question to be honest.
<griff505> is there a meeting next week?
<Audiocourses> yes
<iNSTiNCTDK> good link chris...thanks
<Audiocourses> welcome
<Audiocourses> Same time same place next week guys.
<Duncan_8118> Ok guys I'm off to drink some cider in the garden. Won't make it next week as I am on holiday, see you all in a couple of weeks.
<griff505> ok
<ben_m> have a good one
<griff505> i'm going out in this heat too
<Audiocourses> nice me too
<iNSTiNCTDK> ok, have a nice holiday duncan... see everybody else next week
<ben_m> i could be tempted by a cool damp pub
<griff505> bye
<ben_m> bye instinct
<iNSTiNCTDK> bye
<Duncan_8118> Bye
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<Audiocourses> all good ben?
<ben_m> yeah, pretty much, busy but calming down a bit now
<ben_m> naval base gig last night
<Audiocourses> ah those ones...  good fun
<ben_m> we were on after comedian and magician but before 'Internationally Reknowned Hi-Tec Duo TEMPTATION'
<ben_m> the guy even had one of those guitar style keyboards you wear round your neck
<Audiocourses> hehe oh my god
<ben_m> playing the sax part to Baker Street on it
<Audiocourses> nice...
<Audiocourses> eyes closed?
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<ben-m> still there?
<Audiocourses> yes
<Audiocourses> some AC milan party in the center popping to see that in a min
<ben-m> sorry ISP disconnected
<ben-m> wicked!
<ben-m> make sure you're wearing the right colours
<ben-m> no inter colours
<ben-m> :)
<Audiocourses> hehe
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<Audiocourses> ok dude
<Audiocourses> Ill catch ya soon.
<ben-m> cool, ill email about reviews on mon or wed
<ben-m> got to go devon on tue all day and night
<ben-m> so mon or wed
<Audiocourses> ok looking forward to them..
<Audiocourses> Cheers n gone
<ben-m> cheers
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