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chemirastudio (21:02:24): hello all
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reynola31 (21:02:34): hey all!!
rv_1210 (21:02:42): hi everyine
freshwayne2002 (21:02:42): evening all!
hoaxwagon (21:02:4 : hello
rv_1210 (21:02:49): everyone even!
jalevin9 (21:02:51): Hi all.
jaminuk (21:02:53): hi all
mrbisto (21:03:34): hi all.
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:03:37): how is everyone?
mrbisto (21:03:44): Tidy here.
jalevin9 (21:03:50): good.
reynola31 (21:03:53): ok
chemirastudio (21:03:54): OK I'm buessing
chemirastudio (21:03:5: guessing
hoaxwagon (21:03:59): busy here
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instinct27651982 (21:04:40): sup peoples
chemirastudio (21:04:44): hello BWP
rv_1210 (21:04:47): yo instinct
beatworld_productions (21:04:57): yo whats up?
chemirastudio (21:05:05): Instinct2765and so on
beatworld_productions (21:05:10): is everyone good?
mrbisto (21:05:12): Hi beatworld a big welcome to your first session!
instinct27651982 (21:05:15): chillin..how u guys doin?
jaminuk (21:05:19): hi beatworld
beatworld_productions (21:05:25): Thank you very much its an honour.
jalevin9 (21:05:27): Hi beatworld
hoaxwagon (21:05:36): welcome beat
instinct27651982 (21:05:40): welcome beatworld
beatworld_productions (21:05:47): thx everyone.
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:05:4: hello bwp
mrbisto (21:05:50): beatwrols is on the same course as instinct..
instinct27651982 (21:06:06): oh for real? cool
beatworld_productions (21:06:21): thats good to know. Instinct hope your coping.
hoaxwagon (21:06:36): buckle up
beatworld_productions (21:06:39): Which 'cause is everyone else taking?
beatworld_productions (21:06:42): ok
chemirastudio (21:06:5: MT& RT
jalevin9 (21:07:0: Rt & MT
hoaxwagon (21:07:09): MT & RT
chemirastudio (21:07:13): Music Technology & Recording Technology
rv_1210 (21:07:14): C&G digital audio
reynola31 (21:07:16): mt and rt
beatworld_productions (21:07:25): ah cool.
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:07:29): just MT for me
beatworld_productions (21:08:17): thank you.
mrbisto (21:08:52): And various parts of the world here..
beatworld_productions (21:09:15): I can imagine.
chemirastudio (21:09:20): Nova Scotia Canada
beatworld_productions (21:09:33): I'm South Africa.
reynola31 (21:09:36): trinidad wi
jalevin9 (21:09:3: South Wales, UK
freshwayne2002 (21:09:39): ireland
rv_1210 (21:09:44): UK
hoaxwagon (21:09:49): california
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:10:05): sunny old england
instinct27651982 (21:10:19): Im in Denmark
instinct27651982 (21:11:47): so how did yall do on ur classical radio practical?
chemirastudio (21:12:09): don't ask Sonar Hates me
hoaxwagon (21:12:24): hehe
instinct27651982 (21:12:33): lol
chemirastudio (21:12:41): you must have heard it
chemirastudio (21:12:52): thanks for the support
reynola31 (21:13:17): i got tonsillitis so my VOR sucked!!
hoaxwagon (21:13:25): i did not here it chem
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:13:31): think i did ok, despite a bad cold and a really cheap microphone
jalevin9 (21:13:31): hehe
chemirastudio (21:13:37): I listened to a couple others
instinct27651982 (21:13:46): ima check'em out
beatworld_productions (21:13:52): So which DAW's does everyone use?
chemirastudio (21:13:52): I"m in Chemera folder
chemirastudio (21:14:09): brokenChemira
chemirastudio (21:14:30): 2500 Athalon
chemirastudio (21:14:51): Delta 66 with SONAR %^^^&&^ SONAR
jaminuk (21:14:56): lol
jalevin9 (21:14:59): my daw is a (now) uninfected / reinstalled XP PC.
mrbisto (21:15:02): hehe
chemirastudio (21:15:06): CUBASE her I come
jalevin9 (21:15:2: SX Chemira?
chemirastudio (21:15:45): The latest and greatest
beatworld_productions (21:15:53): Ok. So no Protools/Logic users?
chemirastudio (21:16:01): as soon as $$ pan out
jalevin9 (21:16:06): hehe
jaminuk (21:16:20): beatworld - whats your rig?
chemirastudio (21:17:44): reynola, how did the recording go, no other cakewalk problems?
beatworld_productions (21:17:52): I'm on a G5 and P4, Logic 5.5 & Logic Pro7, Protools LE6.7 Digi Rack002, Fostex Desk T3 Microphone, NT1, Focusrite Voice Master.
chemirastudio (21:18:22): WOOOOOO G5 protools
chemirastudio (21:18:2: I'm out
jaminuk (21:18:31): why did you choose pro tools and logic as a matter of interest - presumably the mac dictates some of this?
instinct27651982 (21:19:00): whats ur preference beatworld, protools or logic?
beatworld_productions (21:19:3: I've been a Logic user for years, the editing on protools is excellent (found out after I took a protools class). In essence very comfortable with Logic.
beatworld_productions (21:19:5: I produce different types of genres and my rig at the moment works best.
reynola31 (21:20:06): chem, it went great except i had no voice, no more cakewalk probs
jaminuk (21:20:10): yes pro tools audio editing (group editing especially) is pretty much unrivalled
chemirastudio (21:20:17): good stuff
chemirastudio (21:20:44): tempo beat mapping too right
beatworld_productions (21:20:52): Also because I want to get into the SSL and Logic, Protools with the SSL4000G+ have proven themselves.
chemirastudio (21:21:11): SSL awsome
jaminuk (21:21:42): do you have a website or anything beatworld?
beatworld_productions (21:21:47): Yeah. I like the warmth and not to mention the eq, though the powercore with the right plugins is hot.
beatworld_productions (21:22:17): I have wack website. Still trying to find a good designer. You wanna check out some beats?
jaminuk (21:22:24): sure thing
beatworld_productions (21:23:01): I'll I'm you some stuff after the session. My manager is gonna kill me though, but not biggie.
jaminuk (21:23:15): ok -don't want to get you in trouble though!
mrbisto (21:23:23): beatwolrd, keep the links in here or post them in forums please. ta.
mrbisto (21:23:36): jamin is a Production Advisor here.
beatworld_productions (21:23:3: don't worry.
beatworld_productions (21:23:54): Mrbisto which forum do I use?
mrbisto (21:24:03): I'll let you know..
mrbisto (21:24:30): You have private course forums ..
beatworld_productions (21:24:37): ok. Nice to know. Jamin I guess you'll be talking to me a lot.
instinct27651982 (21:24:42): hey chris, howcome i cant post in my forums?
jaminuk (21:24:45): probably!
mrbisto (21:25:04): instinct you probably can now, they have beee opened.. (or are in the process of opening)
beatworld_productions (21:25:23):
mrbisto (21:26:19): Instinct.. how did your mix go this week?
instinct27651982 (21:26:5: i see..only week2 is open but i guess u gonna unlock the others as we go along..dunno.. think the mix went aight.. first dance beat ever so u know how that goes but check it out and tell me what u think
mrbisto (21:27:21): I have a listen already, you did good..
mrbisto (21:27:27): shall I paste the link in here?
beatworld_productions (21:27:33): Yeah
instinct27651982 (21:27:40): sure
beatworld_productions (21:27:51): By the way I'll have to do week 1 first right?
mrbisto (21:28:15): http://www.audiocourses.com/ACPMM01/Week%202%20-%20Dance%20Music%20Production/http://www.audiocourses.com/ACPMM01/Week%202%20-%20Dance%20Music%20Production/One%20And%20Only%20(iNSTiNCT%20Mix).mp3
mrbisto (21:28:26): hmm that didnt work
mrbisto (21:28:50): http://www.audiocourses.com/ACPMM01/Week%202%20-%20Dance%20Music%20Production/One%20And%20Only%20(iNSTiNCT%20Mix).mp3
beatworld_productions (21:28:52): wrong link mrbisto.
mrbisto (21:28:56): try that.
chemirastudio (21:29:49): kool
chemirastudio (21:30:00): clean
chemirastudio (21:30:25): refreshing stuff artist name?
jaminuk (21:30:4: vocals are nice and audible - bit light in the bass dept for commercial trance/dance though i'd say
jaminuk (21:31:09): better for radio play than club mix i'd guess
chemirastudio (21:31:32): Not as much pump but nice dynamics
jaminuk (21:31:46): mix is good in terms of relative levels
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:32:30): bit too 'radio friendly' for my taste, seems to work nicely though
chemirastudio (21:32:4: I hear a bit of sub but my speakers are limited
chemirastudio (21:33:02): what part did you play in this??
chemirastudio (21:33:0: BWP
mrbisto (21:33:27): This is instincts MIX ..
beatworld_productions (21:33:29): Having trouble with the link
beatworld_productions (21:33:45): still trying to get there so can't comment yet.
chemirastudio (21:33:50): OH OH AHHH
chemirastudio (21:34:1: instinct nice
instinct27651982 (21:34:32): chemira.. the vocals and some percussion and that synth in the chorus were from the original, everything else i did
chemirastudio (21:35:00): Is this a recognizable artist??
beatworld_productions (21:35:2: Instinct did you do the filtering?
mrbisto (21:35:33): nope.. session singer.
chemirastudio (21:35:50): good stuff
instinct27651982 (21:35:51): dunno.. i dont even know her name nah, the dude who wrote the book for the course did the vocals
instinct27651982 (21:36:10): but i like how he did the filtering, sounds tight
chemirastudio (21:36:10): wha
mrbisto (21:37:0: everyone getting to hear this?
beatworld_productions (21:37:14): The synth frequency could have been a bit away from the vocal. Maybe should have cut around 900 - 1200 hz
chemirastudio (21:37:19): over and over
acousticalweaponsdivision (21:37:24): yep
jalevin9 (21:37:24): .
freshwayne2002 (21:37:34): yep
reynola31 (21:37:3: my connection is bad.. i am still loading it
rv_1210 (21:37:41): yeah, nice one instinct
hoaxwagon (21:37:59): no
beatworld_productions (21:38:02): overall sound quite cool.
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instinct27651982 (21:38:51): thanks guys.. beatworld, i didnt mess with the chorus synth, just left it as is how the original was mixed but the crash i dipped a little more at 8khz than it already was just to let it fit with my mix..
jaminuk (21:38:51): brb
freshwayne2002 (21:38:56): i think its good!
instinct27651982 (21:39:4: i have the spectrasonics voice symphony sample cd's, thats where i got the choir in the background from
mrbisto (21:40:10): I was wondering about that
jaminuk (21:40:19): back
instinct27651982 (21:40:29): they got awesome choirs on those cd's
mrbisto (21:40:30): I heard something similar in Sample Tank.
mrbisto (21:40:39): they do? cool..
chemirastudio (21:41:12): MIDI loaded in sampler?
beatworld_productions (21:41:27): nicely sampled in on point.
instinct27651982 (21:41:32): they got all the ohs, ahs, oos and all that and men women, combo, boys.. sample cd's loaded into my Akai CD3000XL
chemirastudio (21:41:56): I have to get into MIDI and sampling
beatworld_productions (21:42:10): wish I could use one of those. I have an MPC 1000 but don't use it at all.
mrbisto (21:42:10): Chem yeah you should it's fun.
instinct27651982 (21:42:24): beatworld.. i used the MPC1000 on the drums..
beatworld_productions (21:42:36): Ahh nice.
instinct27651982 (21:42:40): used the repeat note function to get the kick rolling in the end some times
beatworld_productions (21:42:57): so u use a lot of sinc?
beatworld_productions (21:43:13): yo chem what do you mostly do?
chemirastudio (21:43:21): Alternative
chemirastudio (21:43:34): I write record small projects
beatworld_productions (21:43:36): Live?
instinct27651982 (21:43:3: got a edirol 8 in and out midi interface..works seamlessly
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chemirastudio (21:43:46): studio
x016178 (21:43:51): hi gang! sorry I'm late!
beatworld_productions (21:43:52): nicw.
beatworld_productions (21:43:56): nice
mrbisto (21:44:05): no worries brent
beatworld_productions (21:44:05): I should utilize my Unitor 8 more.
chemirastudio (21:44:05): I fund my toys with projects
chemirastudio (21:44:24): Unitor 8?
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beatworld_productions (21:44:34): A midi interface
beatworld_productions (21:44:41): Hi, Brent
chemirastudio (21:44:46): I'm so Midi sampler stupified
chemirastudio (21:45:04): I't what I have to get a handle on
beatworld_productions (21:45:25): It's not a sampler it's just a communication path for different midi platforms including DAW's.
chemirastudio (21:45:39): OK
beatworld_productions (21:46:00): what's your setup chemi?
chemirastudio (21:46:13): I'll check it out after from the conference transcripts
beatworld_productions (21:46:2: ok.
chemirastudio (21:46:29): I Use SONAR or It uses me
mrbisto (21:46:57): lol
chemirastudio (21:47:02): I' still redoing all my music computer Sonar has really fouled it up
jaminuk (21:47:07): no love lost there
beatworld_productions (21:47:09): ok. Two friends of mine use it and they love it.
beatworld_productions (21:47:15): They are house producers.
chemirastudio (21:47:16): S3
chemirastudio (21:47:30): the automation killed me
chemirastudio (21:47:49): there is a known bug and S4 is the patch
beatworld_productions (21:47:56): Automation in generall on DAW's has improved dramatically.
chemirastudio (21:47:59): expensive PATCH
chemirastudio (21:48:42): I loved it until it failed. It repeatedly falls apart now
beatworld_productions (21:49:02): sorry to hear.
mrbisto (21:49:05): oh dear
chemirastudio (21:49:1: I lose all the associated files, Cakewalk says S4
chemirastudio (21:49:27): pay the piper
mrbisto (21:49:53): hehe
chemirastudio (21:49:57): I think I'll move to somehting else, my wife is %^% not so happy about that
chemirastudio (21:50:09): $ $ $ $
chemirastudio (21:50:21): please no lol
chemirastudio (21:50:39):
mrbisto (21:50:49): hehe awww
chemirastudio (21:50:59): ouch someone had too
instinct27651982 (21:51:10): haha
chemirastudio (21:51:15): LOL
chemirastudio (21:51:36): ok I give it's sad to say but funny to hear
reynola31 (21:51:45): hey instinct... i know that i am really late......... but i love your mix!!!!!!!
instinct27651982 (21:52:01): thanks reynola
reynola31 (21:52:11): you're welcome!!
reynola31 (21:52:14): keep it up
mrbisto (21:52:24): yeah he did a good job huh?..
reynola31 (21:52:36): hell yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
chemirastudio (21:52:45): Reverb unit on vox??
instinct27651982 (21:53:03): Waves Trueverb
instinct27651982 (21:53:11): plugin
chemirastudio (21:53:11): LEXI?? or software
chemirastudio (21:53:15): No way
instinct27651982 (21:53:22): yeah way
mrbisto (21:53:26): lol
chemirastudio (21:54:06): pluggo mania
chemirastudio (21:54:09): I like it
chemirastudio (21:54:45): Lexicon Patheon has too much grain
mrbisto (21:54:51): It's a good discipline to have a go at mixing styles not really tried previously
mrbisto (21:55:00): which is what instinct did here.. right inst?
chemirastudio (21:55:17): This isn't him singing??
instinct27651982 (21:55:20): exactly what i did here
instinct27651982 (21:55:30): haha
chemirastudio (21:55:35): no lol
chemirastudio (21:56:02): Nice job but what did you go for tech of feel?
chemirastudio (21:56:23): by the numbers research ideas immersion
chemirastudio (21:56:37): what why when how
mrbisto (21:56:40): ?
chemirastudio (21:57:12): If it's not instincts primary genre then how did you approach the task
instinct27651982 (21:57:37): replacement basically..with a little feel.. since i havent worked with dance music i just tried to substitute sounds for the originals and add a little twist to them
chemirastudio (21:57:59): that what i mean your process
beatworld_productions (21:58:30): so what do you normally work on Instinct?
chemirastudio (21:58:30): did you start from scratch? or were they loaded already?
mrbisto (21:58:41): Instinct had an example mix, a set of assetts ..
beatworld_productions (21:59:07): So how does it work Mrbisto?
instinct27651982 (21:59:27): yeah i had the original song in a session file and i kind of studied it for a bit and then i just erased everything except the vocals and some percussion and started building my own track
instinct27651982 (21:59:33): i work with hiphop
beatworld_productions (21:59:52): ahh. tight. where you based?
instinct27651982 (22:00:03): denmark
chemirastudio (22:00:50): heard of GYRAF?
instinct27651982 (22:01:24): yeah
chemirastudio (22:01:35): awsome tube audio gear made in Denmark
instinct27651982 (22:01:45): havent ever used any of the gear though.. u?
chemirastudio (22:01:55): I've made a G9 mic pre myself
beatworld_productions (22:02:15): MrBisto How do I post a track here?
chemirastudio (22:02:25): two SSL mixbuss compressors on the way up too!
mrbisto (22:02:27): BWP post a track of yours?
beatworld_productions (22:02:35): yeah.
mrbisto (22:02:46): you need to have ftp permission, which you will have soon. This week.
mrbisto (22:02:57): then you will be able to paste a link in.
instinct27651982 (22:03:13): chemira.. u made two SSL Compressor clones?
beatworld_productions (22:03:1: Ok.
chemirastudio (22:03:20): Almost doen
chemirastudio (22:03:26): done
instinct27651982 (22:03:2: damn.. thats dope
beatworld_productions (22:03:36): how did you close the ssl compressor?
chemirastudio (22:03:43): need meter and transformer
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beatworld_productions (22:03:57): hmmm?
chemirastudio (22:03:59): close??
instinct27651982 (22:05:11): hey beatworld.. if u wanna check out some snippets from an EP i recorded with one of my friends u can listen to'em here.. http://www.butterroom.com/travistyep.htm
beatworld_productions (22:05:33): ok
beatworld_productions (22:05:47): when did you hook it up?
beatworld_productions (22:05:55): who designed the website?
chemirastudio (22:06:01): http://www.gyraf.dk/gy_pd/gyraf_diy.html for SSL and other DIY Audio
instinct27651982 (22:06:27): wouldnt really call it design.. i made that website in Word when i bought the domain.. still gotta get it done by someone who knows that they doin
instinct27651982 (22:06:36): recorded the ep last summer
beatworld_productions (22:07:05): cool. can't go through to the snippetts though.
beatworld_productions (22:07:16): Jaminuk did you get the track?
instinct27651982 (22:07:33): hey chemira.. how much does it cost to make a SSL compressor clone?
jaminuk (22:07:53): bwp - yeah checking it now
chemirastudio (22:07:5: About $400 USD
jaminuk (22:08:02): what genre would you describe this as bwp?
beatworld_productions (22:08:1: Hip Hop/R&B why?
jaminuk (22:08:44): just wondered whether it was instrumental hip-hop or whether you are going to put some vox on top?
beatworld_productions (22:09:1: A vocalist for in the states is checking it out. for her album
instinct27651982 (22:09:1: damn i gotta get someone to build me one of those
jaminuk (22:09:25): cool!
jaminuk (22:09:36): its got a 'summery' vibe
mrbisto (22:09:37): ok guys..
beatworld_productions (22:09:44): Yeah.
beatworld_productions (22:09:52): What's up Mrbisto
mrbisto (22:09:53): we better keep chats to stuff we cant ALL hear for another time..
mrbisto (22:10:06): Let's start to steer the chat into C&G questions.. and then onto listening to the music edits.. Ben you got some good answers from them this week? I noticed many for RT did really well some good research going on.
jaminuk (22:10:34): yeah i got some good answers
jaminuk (22:10:44): good depth of answer for many
mrbisto (22:11:06): they were good huh?, they put in some effort there!!
jaminuk (22:11:09): sure!
mrbisto (22:11:37): This week was a real "big un" for you all, did you feel over-loaded anyone?
chemirastudio (22:11:46): aaaaaaaaaaaaa
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reynola31 (22:11:56): i for sure did
mrbisto (22:12:04): Did you reynola?...
chemirastudio (22:12:06): yes to say the least
hoaxwagon (22:12:30): a little
x016178 (22:12:35): Amen
freshwayne2002 (22:12:37): wasn't too bad, but then I come from a classical music background so a lot was intuitive
reynola31 (22:12:4: yep work takes up plenty of my energy then i have to rush home to do assignments etc.
hoaxwagon (22:12:57): you dog
acousticalweaponsdivision (22:13:00): was ok for me, got sacked from my job a while back so I have loads of time now
reynola31 (22:13:16): wow wish i were u
chemirastudio (22:13:44): eeeww
mrbisto (22:14:17): hehe
hoaxwagon (22:14:1: i here ya rey
mrbisto (22:14:30): The thing is about the questions is, it was your first week..
reynola31 (22:14:32):
mrbisto (22:14:39): every cohort we hear much the same..
mrbisto (22:14:47): You know, hard work..
chemirastudio (22:15:02):
jaminuk (22:15:07): lol
hoaxwagon (22:15:11): lol
chemirastudio (22:15:13): I'm tired
reynola31 (22:15:13): lol
mrbisto (22:15:23): Which they are.. but it's get's much much easier once you become used to the workload.. it really does.
reynola31 (22:15:3: i'm counting on that
mrbisto (22:15:46): 15 weeks for all the info simply equates to a high workload.
mrbisto (22:15:55): What we didn't mention last week, (not sure why)
mrbisto (22:16:13): is that the practicals each week should be the last thing to attempt..
mrbisto (22:16:25): We want you to complete the questions first and foremost.
chemirastudio (22:16:27): OOHHH
mrbisto (22:16:50): If you DO have time spare, then tackle the practicals, which will only reinforce the topic areas each week.
jalevin9 (22:16:56): well I got that the wrong way round then!
reynola31 (22:17:01): me too!!
hoaxwagon (22:17:1: ditto
freshwayne2002 (22:17:25): yep
mrbisto (22:17:44): hehe..
mrbisto (22:17:52): oops
jalevin9 (22:18:06): I think we instinctively go for the recording side of things.
mrbisto (22:18:22): Indeed, but, don't.. lol
mrbisto (22:18:30): Go with the quesitons first..
jalevin9 (22:18:35): I'll think about it! lol
mrbisto (22:18:5: Nail them and then get into the practical.. it's essential for the exams trust me.
jalevin9 (22:20:07): I've missed a lot of this workshop Chris so, how did we all do. Any feedback there?
mrbisto (22:20:37): Jalevin feedback for the questions?
reynola31 (22:20:50): hey how do we decifer what the correct answers to the questions were ... cause i was iffy on some of my answers
jalevin9 (22:20:55): Well, the practical if you would.
mrbisto (22:21:02): Ben you want to cover this?
mrbisto (22:21:20): Practicals we can discuss shortly
mrbisto (22:21:36): but regarding questions ....
jaminuk (22:21:37): ok
mrbisto (22:21:42): Thanks ben
jaminuk (22:22:06): as far as questions & answers go
jaminuk (22:22:27): myself and chris obviously go through your answers every week
jaminuk (22:23:10): now, if your answers are wrong to any extent then we will pick up on them
jaminuk (22:23:15): and guide you in the right direction
jaminuk (22:23:4: we will try to avoid saying "what you should have written was..."
jaminuk (22:24:12): with online learning, the art of research and distilling ideas is key
jaminuk (22:24:59): now, if your answers are spot on and correct
jaminuk (22:25:36): we will not go through each answer everyone has written and say question 1 correct, question 2 correct etc
jaminuk (22:25:53): certainly in chris's module there is also much scope for there being more than one correct answer
jaminuk (22:26:0: RT is more subjective than MT
jaminuk (22:26:3: you will certainly discover this for yourselves as the weeks progress
jaminuk (22:26:59): for some questions there is not one 'right answer'
jaminuk (22:27:37): obviously with mathematical questions it is very black and white
jaminuk (22:28:23): but with the more 'creative' questions you should be able to build your own 'correct' answer using the framework of knowledge that you build from your research
jaminuk (22:28:56): do you want to add anything chris?
mrbisto (22:29:57): I don't think so Ben, I think that is a very clear ..
jaminuk (22:30:44): may i quickly add...
jaminuk (22:30:53): near the end of the 'term'
jaminuk (22:31:02): you will have the opportunity to take 'mock exams'
jaminuk (22:31:24): by the time that this comes around
jaminuk (22:31:32): you will all hopefully be in the exam frame of mind
mrbisto (22:31:39): The thing is guys it is all about building confidence within yourselves, to trust in your ability to glean suitable knowledge for a particular set of circumstances.
jaminuk (22:32:06): to be honest from what i've read you have all taken this 'exam mode' concept very quickly
hoaxwagon (22:33:04): thanx Ben
jaminuk (22:33:51): i hope this standard is kept up for the rest of the course - if so you should get some good results!
mrbisto (22:33:57): Oh me 2!
beatworld_productions (22:34:10): yeah.
mrbisto (22:34:17): probably one of the best ever first weeks! - apart form rico and instincts of course
jaminuk (22:34:24):
instinct27651982 (22:34:41): ofcourse
mrbisto (22:34:45): hehe
mrbisto (22:34:53): no i want to listen to music edits..
rv_1210 (22:34:55): lol
mrbisto (22:34:5: now rather.
chemirastudio (22:35:2: I'm a no instead of now
jaminuk (22:35:52): ha
mrbisto (22:35:56): so who's up first?
jalevin9 (22:36:16): I'll go.
mrbisto (22:36:33): ok where do we find yours?
jalevin9 (22:36:46): In my folder jlevin
mrbisto (22:36:53): shall i paste the link in here for you?
jalevin9 (22:37:00): Cheers
mrbisto (22:37:22): http://www.audiocourses.com/part3/upload/jalevin9/j.levinclassicalmp3.mp3
mrbisto (22:38:03): Class FM - nice concept!
jalevin9 (22:38:13): Tnakx
chemirastudio (22:38:13): nice work
jaminuk (22:38:15): ok critical hats on....
jalevin9 (22:38:22): OK
chemirastudio (22:38:22): Applause
jalevin9 (22:38:31): (takes a bow\\\\\\\0
acousticalweaponsdivision (22:38:33): heh nice voiceover
jaminuk (22:38:47): right i'm going to be cruel now
jaminuk (22:38:49): lol
jalevin9 (22:38:52): lol
chemirastudio (22:38:54): nnnoooooooo
mrbisto (22:39:00): Yeah well done.. can I hear a slight "munch" at the start?
jaminuk (22:39:13): ok i'm coming from the point of view of a station director or creative director or similiar
jalevin9 (22:39:16): Ohhhhhhhh, slight.
beatworld_productions (22:39:32): Nice work. Love the voice over. Though could have brithened the voice a bit.
jalevin9 (22:39:4: ok.
jaminuk (22:39:5: the 'ducking' is a little too harsh, the level drops very quicky as soon as the VO comes in
jaminuk (22:40:09): not very 'gradual'
jalevin9 (22:40:11): ok
jaminuk (22:40:23): also
jaminuk (22:40:2: 'dead air' at 15s
jalevin9 (22:40:2: My first duck. lol
jaminuk (22:40:32): ha
jaminuk (22:40:43): at 21s
jalevin9 (22:40:45): Yeah, level should have gone up
beatworld_productions (22:40:45): does the vocal go down in volume in the middle?
jaminuk (22:40:49): there is an audible edit point
instinct27651982 (22:40:54): ben i noticed the same thing about the ducking.. little too quick but not bad for a first duck.. i like the voiceover
beatworld_productions (22:41:1: Did you compress the vocal at all
jaminuk (22:41:20): however, the general 'timing' is god
mrbisto (22:41:20): The voice delivery is excellent though .. top marks on intonation.
jaminuk (22:41:24): especially at end
jaminuk (22:41:35): yes VO is good
jalevin9 (22:41:43): Beatworld: no compression
jaminuk (22:42:11): good first duck though
beatworld_productions (22:42:12): I would have used a bit. On radio consitency in voice is important.
jalevin9 (22:42:21): ok
jaminuk (22:42:22): good point about compression BWP
beatworld_productions (22:42:24): in generall good work
beatworld_productions (22:42:44): thx ben
hoaxwagon (22:42:5: can't seem to open it , sorry can't comment jal
jaminuk (22:43:0: i would probably have taken some lo-mid from the VO
jaminuk (22:43:11): as well as compression
x016178 (22:43:15): try copying it locally and then open it.
mrbisto (22:43:22): Slightly "boxy" vocal sound for me, but you can work on that (if you do not like it)
jalevin9 (22:43:25): No prob (I'm having a bad computer day here as well Hoax)
jaminuk (22:43:27): radio VOs tend to be quite heavily compressed
jaminuk (22:43:37): to make the advert 'stand out'
mrbisto (22:43:43): I mean "boxy" doesn't fit well with "CLASS FM"
jalevin9 (22:43:54): ok
jaminuk (22:43:5: have a look around 250-500Hz for a vocal cut
jaminuk (22:44:04): roughly
beatworld_productions (22:44:09): I agree
jalevin9 (22:44:10): right.
beatworld_productions (22:44:3: Who's piece did you pick? Nice choice.
beatworld_productions (22:44:41): who's next"?
jalevin9 (22:44:47): Mine.
beatworld_productions (22:44:57): lovely piece.
jalevin9 (22:45:05): great.
mrbisto (22:45:32): Well done.. anyone else?
jaminuk (22:45:44): well done jalevin!
instinct27651982 (22:45:51): good job man
jalevin9 (22:45:53): Thanks jaminuk
beatworld_productions (22:46:00): yeah keep it up.
jalevin9 (22:46:05): cheers.
chemirastudio (22:46:06): much praise on that
mrbisto (22:46:2: next?
chemirastudio (22:46:44):
jaminuk (22:46:51): lol
chemirastudio (22:46:59): I'm commited
beatworld_productions (22:47:11): ok
mrbisto (22:47:39): http://www.audiocourses.com/part3/upload/Chemira/week_two%20Classical%20Edit/chemira_classical%2029.mp3
chemirastudio (22:47:4: Ouch
mrbisto (22:48:09): ohhhhh.. that has a Canadian sound
beatworld_productions (22:48:42): Your music is very loud.
jaminuk (22:48:43):
chemirastudio (22:48:49): Duckless
jaminuk (22:48:5: sure you can hear the lack of ducking
beatworld_productions (22:49:05): yeah.
chemirastudio (22:49:26): I had one kick at the cat and it won't moew again
jaminuk (22:49:30): lol
mrbisto (22:49:33): hehe
chemirastudio (22:49:35): not me
chemirastudio (22:49:46):
jaminuk (22:50:00): what mic you using chemira?
chemirastudio (22:50:06): NTK
mrbisto (22:50:07): good question
jaminuk (22:50:0: dynamic?
chemirastudio (22:50:11): Beleive it or not
jaminuk (22:50:12): valve!
instinct27651982 (22:50:15): nice verb on the mic..
chemirastudio (22:50:16): yes
jaminuk (22:50:25): it has that lo-mid warmth
jaminuk (22:50:33): but not the top end 'shimmer'
jaminuk (22:50:3: very common with valve mics
chemirastudio (22:50:41): I compressed really heavy
jaminuk (22:50:50): yes that is audible
beatworld_productions (22:50:51): What preamp did you use>
chemirastudio (22:50:53): too heavy I think
beatworld_productions (22:50:56): ?
chemirastudio (22:51:04): ?
jaminuk (22:51:09): you know what ratio and how much gain reduction you had dialled in?
instinct27651982 (22:51:17): i hear some artifacts in the music around 11-12 secs..
chemirastudio (22:51:19): Mind proint envoice
mrbisto (22:51:26): I hear a dodgy music file, 11 secs..
jaminuk (22:51:2: very nice preamp the envoice
mrbisto (22:51:30): yeah me too.. nasty
chemirastudio (22:51:3: I couldnt figure that out
chemirastudio (22:51:4: It was in my initial load in
mrbisto (22:52:11): possibly the conversion to mp3... ? what you using for that? are those artifacts present in your mix before conversion?
jaminuk (22:52:12): 11s would have been a good time for a X-fade to a different track/feel incidentally
chemirastudio (22:52:46): I selcted the endpoint first
beatworld_productions (22:52:5: You could have also looked a much mellow piece for the type of voice over.
mrbisto (22:53:13): BWP they had the music file set
mrbisto (22:53:16): all the same one
beatworld_productions (22:53:19): ahh.
mrbisto (22:53:24):
beatworld_productions (22:53:35): my bad
chemirastudio (22:53:4: yes it's good on my internet comp
jaminuk (22:54:03): one thing about a lot of VOs you hear on radio
jaminuk (22:54:21): they often emphasise the low end 'growl' and the top end (10khz +)
jaminuk (22:54:42): often using 'exciters' of one variety or another
jaminuk (22:55:21): BBE sonic maximiser is a VST plugin that offers similiar results to an exciter
instinct27651982 (22:55:43): ben, whats some good hardware exciters?
jaminuk (22:55:55): dbx do some good units
chemirastudio (22:55:57): Aphex
chemirastudio (22:56:00): aural exciter
jaminuk (22:56:06): also the finaliser (by TC i think0
chemirastudio (22:56:14): $$$
jaminuk (22:56:21): BBE also do hardware versions of sonic maximiser
mrbisto (22:56:29): ok moving ok quickly guys before we do too much software, anyone else need a listen?
instinct27651982 (22:56:33): yeah TC makes the Finaliser but thats a mastering unit
jaminuk (22:56:4: finaliser can also work on indivudal tracks though
jaminuk (22:57:05): lots of pop vox have a finaliser shimmer
reynola31 (22:57:06): listen to mine............ in the uploads folder under classical edits
jaminuk (22:57:09): ok
mrbisto (22:57:11): ok good
mrbisto (22:57:33): http://www.audiocourses.com/part3/upload/Classical%20Edits/Rachelh%20Classical%20Music%20Edit.mp3
reynola31 (22:58:16): dying with anticipation here!
jaminuk (22:58:32): is there a reverb/slap back delay on the vocals reynola?
mrbisto (22:58:34): big music ..
beatworld_productions (22:58:42): The vocal is not audible.
reynola31 (22:58:47): yep
instinct27651982 (22:58:51): huge music.. vocals are not too clear
reynola31 (22:58:55): i had toncillitis
mrbisto (22:59:01): Wanna tlak us through the vocal techiques racheal?
reynola31 (22:59:02): had no vioce at al \l
reynola31 (22:59:03):
mrbisto (22:59:05): ohhh
instinct27651982 (22:59:13): did u use a pop filter reynola?
jaminuk (22:59:15): vocals are lacking in the are we call 'presence' (around 2khz +)
reynola31 (22:59:32): i am not happy with the vo at all
jaminuk (22:59:51): what mic reynola?
reynola31 (22:59:55): but i liked the musical edit itself
reynola31 (22:59:59): dynamic
jaminuk (23:00:10): were you close to the mic (less than 6 inches)
chemirastudio (23:00:16): there are some plosives P's and B's
chemirastudio (23:00:25): the pop filter would help
chemirastudio (23:00:4: or off axis micing
beatworld_productions (23:01:01): hey guys could I leave you? Midnight here.
reynola31 (23:01:13): about 3 " too close i gathered from the resarch i did on mic placement techniques
mrbisto (23:01:19): sure.. whenever ya like.. will be in touch BPM
chemirastudio (23:01:25): night night
reynola31 (23:01:30): see u bpm
instinct27651982 (23:01:36): peace
chemirastudio (23:01:37): depends on mic
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:01:39): seeya bwp
jaminuk (23:01:40): cheers bwp
beatworld_productions (23:01:41): thx. Later everyone see you next week.
rv_1210 (23:01:43): see ya
hoaxwagon (23:01:45): thanx everyone, mabee next week I'll have figured out the ftp peace out hoaxwagon
reynola31 (23:01:46): bye
chemirastudio (23:01:47): later
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mrbisto (23:02:25): oh yes hoax.. ftp.. please post the problem in the related forum ok?
mrbisto (23:02:29): so we can address it
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mrbisto (23:03:03): anyone esle for listening?
hoaxwagon (23:03:05): ok
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:03:32): could listen to mine i guess
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:03:46): its in the classical edits folder
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mrbisto (23:04:07): ok
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:04:32): its thx1138_classicaledit, think thats what the filename is anyway
mrbisto (23:05:00): http://www.audiocourses.com/part3/upload/Classical%20Edits/thx1138_classicaledit.mp3
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:05:39): hehe excuse my voice, i have a bit of a cold so I'm a bit more croaky than usual
jaminuk (23:05:44):
jaminuk (23:05:52): nice radio gruffness though!
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:06:40): had to do a fair bit of hiss reduction as my mic isnt so good
jaminuk (23:06:4: what mic?
chemirastudio (23:07:13): link up
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:07:30): heh we are talking a 10 quid sanyo mic
mrbisto (23:07:39): lol
jaminuk (23:07:40): fair enough
mrbisto (23:07:50): call yourself a sound engineer?
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:08:03): i did have a better one but someone 'borrowed' it and ive never seen it since
mrbisto (23:08:09): ohhh
mrbisto (23:08:5: time is running away so fast...
reynola31 (23:08:59): hey guys i have to go
reynola31 (23:09:01): bye
jaminuk (23:09:03): bye
x016178 (23:09:06): Seems like there could be just a second more cross fade at around the 6-7 sec.
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mrbisto (23:09:11): yeah we should wrap it up now..
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:09:14): seeya
jaminuk (23:09:17): well done everyone
mrbisto (23:09:23): We can listen to remaining edits next week.
x016178 (23:09:26): good night all
mrbisto (23:09:27): yes a very well done..
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chemirastudio (23:09:35): Im off to work, day job is callin
rv_1210 (23:09:3: night night all, cya next week
chemirastudio (23:09:39): later all
instinct27651982 (23:09:43): aight, im out too.. see you all next week peaace!!
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chemirastudio (23:10:04): talk later AWd
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acousticalweaponsdivision (23:10:56): right, hunger is calling me, got to go
jaminuk (23:11:10): see you later
acousticalweaponsdivision (23:11:21): bye
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jaminuk (23:15:21): ok guys i'm off
jaminuk (23:15:24): see you next week
mrbisto (23:15:27): cheers ben
jaminuk (23:15:33): laters
jaminuk (23:15:47): <gone>
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