audionautix
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Hi,
I have been recording/producing for years and I have read everything I can get my hands on. I don't mind spending money on courses here but to be honest, I think I have the basics covered (i.e how to set a compressor, how to use EQ to get things to stick out or blend in etc.) As you can hear by the link example, I'm not a begginer....
However, I'm still not getting what I would call a "professional" sound. Here is an example of something I just did for a girl in England...
http://www.audionautix.com/transfers/paintapicture.mp3
I mix "in the box" in Sonar. Any input would be appreciated. I feel like I have come as far as I can on my own.
sincerely,
Jason S. |
Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:44 pm |
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bkkornaker
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she has a beautiful voice! wow! At first listen, im listening to it at work through a junky mono monitor on my computer, but once i heard her voice, i put on the headphones for a further listen................
from what i hear, its a great song........very minor adjustemnts are needed. The bass sounds as if it is panned to one side by maybe 20%, it should be in the center. Some cymbal crashes were very low in volume, but some of them were not.....i think they need to be more uniform in volume, and constant volume. BUt what i really noticed......was nothing really sounded "upfront", all instruments (except her voice) sounded to be back a bit, and further away.....not lower in volume, but just distant. i didnt hear any major reverb happening....so i dont know why it was sounding like this.
is this masterd? sometimes mastering will help bring things upfront and all leveled out........
but this was a very good recording, its a good mix as it is.....
I too use Sonar 6, and its a great all-in-one package for "in the box: recording/mixing. You did a great job. |
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:48 pm |
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conquistadore
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Welcome to the ACF!
A couple of points:
- The intro is okay, but once the actual arrangement comes in it gets a bit messy. The only elements that stand out clearly are the vocals and the bass. Everything else sounds like un-sorted low frequency content. I agree that a mix is only as good as the arrangement, but once everything is playing I really cant make out whats happening and its drawing my attention away from the vocals - which is the key element in this song. I think the mix would benefit with a little more frequency separation between each element.
- You have panned things around but dont stop there. Unless its an experimentative/electronic/abstract genre, I feel a mix should translate a sound stage with width and depth. Pan those harmonies around and play with reverb/delays and high frequency/low frequency content on each sound to give it a place in the mix.
- The track can have a bit more sparkle (on the acoustic guitar and hats).
- The bass can definitely go down a bit
- The kick can come up - to give the track a more solid foundation (maybe bring out the lower mids a bit - the "dhud")
- Towards the end of the song, right when the break happens - drop the reverb time on the vocals to make the break sound more convincing.
- The mix sounds quite good on headphones but it falls a bit flat on speakers.
Thats all I can think off now!
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Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:48 am |
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audionautix
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Thanks for all the great tips. The frequency thing is what I'm having trouble with. I know that everything should sit in it's own window, but I just can't seem to get that happening even though I understand the basics.
The fact that everything is far away puzzles me as well. Perhaps it's to much delay on things i'm using to create "space". Thanks again for all your help.
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:41 pm |
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ben m
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quote:
Originally posted by audionautix
Thanks for all the great tips. The frequency thing is what I'm having trouble with. I know that everything should sit in it's own window, but I just can't seem to get that happening even though I understand the basics.
The fact that everything is far away puzzles me as well. Perhaps it's to much delay on things i'm using to create "space". Thanks again for all your help.
Js
There is a bit too much reverb on the vocals for my taste, and this pushes the vocal back a little bit. |
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Thu Feb 08, 2007 7:41 pm |
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Open
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I have no complaints about the mix. Maybe perhaps too much reverb, but it was only noticeable in the beginning. It sounds like it only has to be mastered.
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Wed Sep 26, 2007 6:17 am |
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lucid
Joined: 19 Nov 2008
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I don't know if you want songwriting help here or not. I'm assuming that brutal honesty means everything. The recording is ok, although its basically piano bass drums and maybe some kind of indiscript pad. It doesn't change this the whole song and I feel it needs something else. the song is nice, but the subject matter/voice, need something more in the way of lyrics. Once it's said what it needs to say, it doesn't go any further to make examples of the point, it realize on the painted picture etc, but needs more.Than the voice is plastered all over the song as if the more the better, when a solo or something would break up the monotiny.in other words Ifeel saturation of the voice, the hook, but not the lyrics, which don't give me enough. I think the feeling is there and her voice is lovely, but why stop there. And I wouldn't say the song is ready for mastering because of...all of the above. |
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