matthewvandenham
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| Protools, Cubase, Sonar, Audition are all too complicated! |
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I don't understand why protools and cubase are often considered the standard in recording. I have just installed Izotopes Ozone, Waves L3, PSP vintage warmer, and sony architech's plugins and COOL EDIT PRO 2.1 has detected all of them!!
It takes literally seconds to load the application...and a sidenoted: VST's are just awful if you ask me. They slow the initial start up and they are hogs and are unpredictable. I prefer running Cooledit and then using the mastering software as a standalone in the post production stages.
I prefer to focus my attention on the mics, cables, preamps, acoustics, computer noise, rather figuring out how to use the software. There should be no conflicts or instability issues at all in the software department in order to achieve quality recordings. start from the ground up...plant shit seeds get shit weeds.
I've talked to so many engineers that are convinced that protools and cubase are the best and "it's what everybody uses in the studio's" but I have had nothing but headache's with either program. They are poorly designed and not very stable. As much as I love CEP2.1, there's somethings like midi and the tempo mapping that makes me hold on to cubase sx 3.0. But I use CEP as much as possible.
Just out of curiosity sake, what do you dislike about cool edit? |
Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:18 am |
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wailingalleycat
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think you may have accidentally hit New Post instead of Reply matthew.
who is that question aimed at?
also i would say Pro Tools is only complicated if you choose to use the complicated features. its very simple for straight editing and mixing. if you want complicated try Logic 7. |
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Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:37 pm |
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matthewvandenham
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I guess it's aimed at new audio recording designers who have complicated the interface, when they should have learned from syntrillium. I'm confused as to why engineers would want to spend the thousands and spend hundreds of hours learning cubase or protools when you can download cooledit for free or buy an older version of samplitude or cooledit for under $20 each. You have to go to school just to learn how to use most audio programs. (IMO) people should be taking that money for schooling and software and investing it in to gear like monitors, preamps and mics and start recording bands for free or a bit of money rather than taking 2-3 years to build up your pro tools-exclusive rig and never actually record any serious projects until you have the right gear and proper knowledge acquired. You can learn as you go, it just takes some ambition.
side note: I have just installed Samplitude and it's pretty great so far. It seems to have filled the gap between cooledit's simplicity and cubase/protools vst/midi support.
I have tried logic and I find it to be excessively complicated just like cubase or protools. These applications get on my nerves with how technical they have made such simple tasks, or how they bog down my system. Anybody else prefer simplicity over....huge learning curves and headaches? I shouldn't need to undergo technical studies of recording and music in order to record a simple demo.
If Samplitude can record at the same quality or sample rate and provide you with midi and vst capabilities in an easy to use interface, then why do engineers still prefer using cubase and protools? what are the advantages of using a protools/cubase/logic based system? |
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:54 am |
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wailingalleycat
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i disagree somewhat, i think some programs are very complicated yes but at a basic level they are quite simple.
my favourite is ProTools (and cost isnt much of an argument, £300 for a quality soundcard and industry standard software is pretty darn cheap) and the learning curve is pretty shallow, its very powerful but the simple editing functions couldnt be simpler.
I dont like logic much at all and ive used it pretty in depth down in the environment window building midi mixers etc. and everything is so long winded so i avoid using it. im told Logic 8 takes some of Pro tools best bits and makes the interface easier but gives a much better platform for music creation whereas PT is really a tracking and mixing program. |
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Thu Feb 26, 2009 8:42 pm |
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lancenz
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hi all
! i use nuendo and reason because it emulates real gear, if you can use the real thing you can use this stuff thats why we love this shit yes!? as for cool edit yuckeeeeeee! thats just me, was impressed with plugins nice 31 fader eq |
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Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:24 am |
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conquistadore
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Hey
What do you mean by complicated? Can you get specific?
CEP might be great what for you do. But for the kind of work I do, it can be very limited - editing, routing, video support, packaged plugins, surround mixes, compatibility with other studios, etc.. |
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