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Hello! I'm a student filmmaker and I will be shooting my first short at the end of this year. I want to ask you guys for some audio gear and recording advice.
I have two options for now: 1, Rode NTG-2 shotgun mic, AZDEN FMX-42 field mixer and record the audio on camera (Panasonic HDC-HS300) and 2,
Rode NTG-2 shotgun mic, Marantz PMD661 Professional Portable Flash Field Recorder or Fostex FR-2 LE - 2-Channel Compact Flash Field Recorder for separate recording.
Is the preamp in the mixer better than the one in the recorder? Or what is the better option between the two?
I would like to record clean dialog both on interiors and exteriors. Any advice on how to do that would be appreciated. If you know some better equipment in that price range (1000$), please tell me.
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Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:55 am |
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wailingalleycat
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depends on your crew really. will you be able to find a sound recordist that knows what they are doing when it comes to using the fostex? you cant sync the LE it doesnt have word clock so you would need to use a clap.
if you are just getting a non-techy mate to hold the boom pole save your money and record straight to camera.
Audio technica do decent shotguns and factor in the cost of a rycote softie and boom pole if possible. |
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Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:03 pm |
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I won't be counting on any professional help. I'm on a tight budget and I'm only willing to pay an extra buck on decent equipment that I could use on future projects. I have no problem with using a clapper.
The camera is HDC-HS300, an amateur model but one which offers great manual controls. If I record straight to camera I'll be using the 3,5 mm jack and also if the camera has any autogain functions I think the sound will be ruined.
I'll be getting a boom pole and I'm hoping for a blimp kit as well.
Any advice on recording techniques? I mean I would like to get some clean, crisp dialog without much ambient on the outside or reverb on the inside.
Actually, the main reason I want to get high quality sound is because I'm from Romania, and Romanian films have always had audio problems... |
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Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:28 pm |
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wailingalleycat
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essentially just get a good long shotgun, you get what you pay for generally (consider second hand). be very careful with wind noise its a killer, even a light breeze can have an effect. interference tube mics do resist it fairly well but definately get a dead cat.
get as close with the mic as possible, dont rule out the possibility of coming in under the frame aswell, i.e mic'ing from below. watch for shadows of course.
keep the boom steady as possible, and be very careful with the direction of the mic. consistency is the key. (both distance and angle) 10 degrees of change will effect the sound an awful lot. tilt the boom to track the person talking.
Dont expect miracles and be prepared to do a fair bit of editing with EQ and level keyframes to keep that consistency. also always record 30secs or so of ambience at each new location to capture things like wind noise and traffic etc. then you have some 'filler' to use during the edit for blending between takes etc. true digital silence is very noticeable.
consider getting a lavalier mic. even a cheap one will often sound better when used correctly than a shotgun.
also if using a mixer, dont use too much compression and set your gain on the safe side, you can always add gain, noise is better than clipping.
hope that helps, do ask questions
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Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:42 pm |
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So what do you think would work better on interiors? Lavalier or shotgun?
I'll surely get e dead cat. If I can't find one, would a road kill work instead? Just kidding!
Thanks for the advice! |
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Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:18 am |
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wailingalleycat
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probably a lavalier in most cases inside, or a hidden mic somewhere. a lav doesnt have to be on the actor. also you may be restricted for space for boom swinging |
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Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:02 pm |
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Thanks for all the help! I'll post some other questions if I have any. |
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Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:06 pm |
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