tobyh1000
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Listening to the song after trying to phase invert it through soundforge it sounds to me that the following are panned to the left - guitar and the keyboard synth when it comes in at 1.58.00s. The backing vocals which first come in at 0.15s are panned to the centre. The main vocal, bass, drums and guitar solo at 1.50.00s are panned to the right and the volume levels are louder than the left.
Not having much luck researching what was used to record it, I can’t find anything but an overall summary of the bands history-which thx1138 has already summarised.
I hear the tambourine too – don’t think it’s been mixed in after though, I think it’s just the way it’s being played. |
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thx1138
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It sounds to me that the bass and drums are panned to the centre. The acoustic guitar is central but it sounds like the guitar part was doubled up with each guitar panned hard left and right, they sound a little different each side of the mix. The synth/keyboard parts are panned to the left with what sounds to me like a little reverb.
The main vocal has a small amount of reverb and is fairly central as it becomes far left prominent when one channel is inverted. This was also what made me think there were 2 guitar parts as they didn't seem to be too affected by inverting one of the channels, at least not as much as the bass, vocals and main parts of the drums were.
The backing vocals are panned toward the right side of the mix with a small amount coming from the left speaker, not too sure what effects may have been used on it but I suspect reverb was involved somewhere along the line.
Also, there is what sounds like tambourine accompanying the hi-hats.
I'd say that overall not a lot of compression was used due to the difference in high and low volumes, peaks of around -0.2 dB and lows of around -14 dB though maybe some was used on the drums, vocals and bass guitar.
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rachelh
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Come Up And See Me (Make Me Smile)
by Steve Harley and Cockney Rebel
Album: Memorial Show
Date: 1975
This song was written as a fight back when the original line-up of Cockney Rebel walked out on Steve Harley. The song has been covered more than 100 times in seven languages. In 1975 the band recorded Make Me Smile at Abbey Road studios with the Beatles' producer, Alan Parsons; it became a number 1 hit in England and elsewhere. The Performing Rights Society has confirmed it one of the most played records in British broadcasting.
In an interview Steve Harley describes the song:
Q:
It's ironic that your greatest hit, the one most people know you for, was in fact a barely disguised attack on the band members who had quit. Was ironic revenge sweet and is it still?
A:
It still amazes me that the song (Make Me Smile) is still enjoyed mostly for its easy, mid-tempo backbeat, and that the lyrics are sung innocently by so many. There is venom lurking between those lines! But a song should be acceptable to all kinds on all levels.
When monitoring the track I noticed that for most of the duration, the level stayed in the higher dB range and into the ‘red zone’ indicating a wide dynamic range and more likely that compression was used. Reverberation is apparent when the song goes into the silent parts and the vocals re-emerge. The song is panned to the centre; the main volume is set to –0.2 dB.
Apart from the segments of the song that has complete silence, the dynamic range stays into the highest level often bypassing 6dB and coming close to clipping especially in the parts when the percussion is at its loudest. It seems that most of the highest levels are achieved when there is a climactic part of the song but for most of the song the levels are high.
The instruments used would be:
Electric Violin
Drums
Vocals – Lead and Backing
Bass
Tambourine
Keyboards
Guitar – Acoustic [as when Steve formed the band he insisted that it must have no electric guitars and combine as many styles of music as possible]
The song consists of a short instrumental at the beginning, 3 verses, and a 2-line chorus –which is repeated, as well as an instrumental bridge. The backing vocals consist of the chorus and added oohs and la la’s, this vocal itself is a powerful force in the song as it adds to its thickness and dynamics in terms of loudness.
Lyrics for: Come Up And See Me (Make Me Smile)
You've done it all, you've broken every code
And pulled the rebel to the floor
You spoilt the game, no matter what you say
For only metal - what a bore!
Blue eyes, blue eyes, how come you tell so many lies?
Come up and see me, make me smile
Or do what you want, run on wild
There's nothing left, all gone and run away
Maybe you'll tarry for a while
It's just a test, a game for us to play
Win or lose, it's hard to smile
Resist, resist, it's from yourself you have to hide
Come up and see me, make me smile
Or do what you want, run on wild
There ain't no more, you've taken everything
From my believe in Mother Earth
How can you ignore my faith in everything
When I know what Faith is and what it's worth
Away, away, and don't say maybe you'll try
Come up and see me, make me smile
Or do what you want, run on wild
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.lasso?id=4760
http://www.steveharley.com/bio.html
http://www.articles.me.uk/steveharley.htm
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Sebastian
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/teeth/soundtrack/reb.html |
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AUdIoCoUrSeS
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Again some more useful info has been added, I wonder if we can find out who actually played on this? Who were the musicians, and what are the names? - perhaps we could track them down?
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tobyh1000
Joined: 10 Jul 2005
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Drummer - Stuart Elliott –
currently drummer for Kate Bush.
Guitarist- Jim Cregan –
most recent thing I can find is in 2001 when he was a guitarist, songwriter and producer of W.G. Snuffy Walden’s ‘music by…W.G. Snuffy Walden’.
Bassist - George Ford –
last thing I can find is when he played bass in 1976 on Al Stewart’s – Year of the Cat album.
Keyboardist - Duncan McKay –
Currently living in Cape Town, South Africa. Formed Re’Union in 2003 where he co-wrote, produced and arranged their 1st album –‘The First Time’. Re’Union will be touring in 2006. |
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